jim
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Post by jim on Feb 12, 2023 15:32:57 GMT -5
Two day format solves all your issues! Agreed, but didn't RIIL just take varsity states down to a 1 day tournament? |
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Post by rulesguy on Feb 12, 2023 17:34:14 GMT -5
RIIL can eliminate match rule at Freshman/JV State. The same kids who couldn't go 7 matches yesterday, can wrestle 8 matches at Sectionals this upcoming week because it's a qualifying tournament for Varsity State. The extra match rule only allows for a 6th match, even at qualifying events. 7th and 8th matches would never be allowed. |
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Post by dbllegtkedwn on Feb 12, 2023 23:23:57 GMT -5
Two day format solves all your issues! Agreed, but didn't RIIL just take varsity states down to a 1 day tournament? It was initially voted on expecting it to move down to a 16-man bracket. The expectation was 10 D1 seeds and 6 D2 seeds, but that didn't pass the coaches association. It went back to 20 seeds (12 D1 and 8 D2) when the issue of the match-limit rule was brought up it went back to two days. |
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Post by dbllegtkedwn on Feb 12, 2023 23:31:20 GMT -5
RIIL can eliminate match rule at Freshman/JV State. The same kids who couldn't go 7 matches yesterday, can wrestle 8 matches at Sectionals this upcoming week because it's a qualifying tournament for Varsity State. The extra match rule only allows for a 6th match, even at qualifying events. 7th and 8th matches would never be allowed. That is correct. RIIL Rules in Article 32 Section 2 B.1This is the rule that has allowed weekend tournaments to limit matches to 5 or 6. NFHS Rulebook has this in Section 1-4 Article 3: So even in the advancement tournament, you're still limited to 6 matches according to the rule-book. Unless RIIL determines otherwise. Let's hope the brackets aren't bigger than 16 people or this could open a can of worms this year. |
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Post by powerhalf285 on Feb 13, 2023 8:52:57 GMT -5
First off great job by Coach Gaffney and staff/parents for hosting the Fresh/JV states again. Its obvious this tournament is getting to big to run 2 separate tourneys. I think the RIIL needs to be a little more involved with helping them out rather than just collecting money at the gate. Maybe a hire a small security team to help with crowds, keeping cerified coaches in corner, and marking off enough space to have the podium far enough away to take pictures of your kids.People were 3 ft away which was tough for people to snap that shot .. I get it thats it only the "freshman and JV" but it is still a state tournament.Maybe look into PCTA even if it has to be moved to Sunday for availability.. Second, witnessing parents approaching the head table over the match rule limit and yelling at the tourney clerk is emabarrasing. That guy runs good tournaments and follows the NFHS rules. The rule is the rule and those coaches should to address it with there parents. Parents, if you got an issue, go to your coach. No state wrestles 7 or more regardless of time unless its over 2 days. If any kid gets hurt in that 7th match, i see a lawsuit happening. Good luck to those going back to Coventry for the Sectionals this weekend and to all who wrestle at Stets and New Englands.
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Post by thats2 on Feb 13, 2023 19:08:50 GMT -5
I haven’t heard about this at all but who’s going to be the D1/1 seed for 145 since Fertado and vital hasn’t wrestled at all? I would assume who ever has more power points |
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Post by johnlynx on Feb 14, 2023 20:34:38 GMT -5
Heard a rumor that 126 Hope Sincere Pompey might no longer be on the team. If that is true, that opens the door for someone like SK Ben White to get on podium
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JimmyM
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Post by JimmyM on Feb 14, 2023 21:44:49 GMT -5
FunkMaster we getting fresh rankings before sectionals?
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Post by funkmaster on Feb 14, 2023 23:04:16 GMT -5
FunkMaster we getting fresh rankings before sectionals? Yes! haha Been backed up for a bit but actually this time. Tomorrow night! |
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Post by JimmyM on Feb 15, 2023 21:36:29 GMT -5
Thanks for putting in the work this season FunkMaster, I know how long it takes to put up quality rankings.
That being said, can’t wait to see these rankings get blown up at sectionals & states. Annual reminder to all the wrestlers on here that rankings don’t mean **** when the postseason starts. Good luck to all
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Post by funkmaster on Feb 15, 2023 22:49:45 GMT -5
Thanks for putting in the work this season FunkMaster, I know how long it takes to put up quality rankings. That being said, can’t wait to see these rankings get blown up at sectionals & states. Annual reminder to all the wrestlers on here that rankings don’t mean **** when the postseason starts. Good luck to all You and me both haha! Let the post season begin! |
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Post by blastdouble6 on Feb 20, 2023 17:41:07 GMT -5
Any state finalist predictions?
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Post by bumper69 on Feb 20, 2023 17:59:45 GMT -5
Any state finalist predictions? My personal predictions 106:soe vs hulkow 113: hood vs conlan 120: Ellis vs Perez 126: Joyce vs McCarthy 132: myers vs Swaim 138: Joyce vs edmir 145: vital vs bouyssou 152: hood vs montefusco 160: reall vs campbell 170: isael vs baccala 182: fine vs Preston 195: Corbin vs Tavares 220: diorio vs Reiner 285: church vs marvelli |
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jim
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Post by jim on Feb 21, 2023 12:12:42 GMT -5
The number 1 from sectionals is not rewarded for their finish. Its a very heavy d1 bias and goes against the integrity of what the sectional tournament should represent.
I cant understand why the sectionals champ isnt given the automatic #2 or the #1 if they have a head to head wins or previous year state champ. There is zero difference in the road a 5th place at sectionals and a 1st place sectional take.
However, it does make for some great 1/4 finals match ups
138 Castillo v Monteiro
152 McConnell v Currier
160 Winfield v Cambell
160 Cruz v Poore
120 Mooney v Monez
120 Davis v McGrew or Martins
170 HunterV Scalma
220 Dioro v Alchihed
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Post by riccy on Feb 21, 2023 17:48:20 GMT -5
Who do you think has the upper hand in a possible rematch between Mian and Vital?
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Post by funkmaster on Feb 21, 2023 21:32:45 GMT -5
Who do you think has the upper hand in a possible rematch between Mian and Vital? In my opinion, I say Vital. He’s faced better opponents overall all season. The wrestlings always the best at the end of the season and it’ll give Vital the upper hand |
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Post by funkmaster on Feb 21, 2023 21:46:40 GMT -5
Final Update!!!
PSA THESE ARE NOT PREDICTIONS
Whose ready for States ?
Team Race
Tournament:
1.)Ponaganset
2.)Coventry
3.)Hope
4.)Bishop Hendricken
5.)Cranston West
P4P:
1.)Gabriel Bouyssou Jr. (Scituate)
2.)Hayden Myers Sr. (Coventry)
3.)Jacob Joyce Sr. (Ponaganset)
4.)Andrew Reall Jr. (Ponaganset)
5.)Isael Perez Jr. (Hope)
HM: Jason Hood Sr. (Ponaganset)
106
1.)William Soe Sr. (NP)
2.)Mikhail Hulkow Fr. (BH)
3.)Robert Newton Fr. (Scit)
4.)Dylan Baglien Sr. (Cumb)
5.)Caden Hughes Fr. (NK)
6.)Brady Deroy So. (EP)
113
1.)Jared Hood So. (Pono)
2.)Ryan Conlan Sr. (LSA)
3.)Joseph Hiraldo Jr. (Hope)
4.)Micah Soe Sr. (NP)
5.)Zach Henault Sr. (Linc)
6.)Isaiah Garcia Fr. (Cent)
120
1.)Peyton Ellis Jr. (Cov)
2.)David Perez Fr. (Pono)
3.)Martim Moniz Sr. (EP)
4.)Cameron Davis Jr. (CW)
5.)Edwin Mooney Sr. (Linc)
6.)Logan Martins So. (John)
126
1.)Jacob Joyce Sr. (Pono)
2.)Stone Farnsworth Jr. (Cov)
3.)Andrew McCarthy So. (Mt. Hope)
4.)Sincere Pompey Sr. (Hope)
5.)Ben White So. (SK)
6.)John Kaminski Sr. (EWG)
132
1.)Hayden Myers Sr. (Cov)
2.)Connor Swaim Sr. (NK)
3.)William Leischner So. (Pono)
4.)Ivan Mazariego Jr. (Central)
5.)Logan Neishel So. (NP)
6.)Brian Montanez So. (Hope)
138
1.)Edmir Monteiro Jr. (Hope)
2.)Joseph Joyce Fr. (Pono)
3.)Sebastian Armstrong Jr. (Cov)
4.)Eneas Castillo Sr. (CE)
5.)Tyler Schartner Jr. (NK)
6.)Baker Kattan Sr. (CW)
145
1.)Gabriel Bouyssou Jr. (Scit)
2.)Mason Furtado Sr. (Mt. Hope)
3.)Aziz Mian So. (Cent)
4.)Colby Vital Fr. (BH)
5.)Elijah Silverman Sr. (Cov)
6.)Miguel Santana Sr. (NP)
152
1.)Jason Hood Sr. (Pono)
2.)Luke Montefusco Sr. (CW)
3.)Ryan Currier Jr. (Char)
4.)Jordan DaCosta Jr. (Cumb)
5.)James Thibaudeau Jr. (Mt. Hope)
6.)Skylar Reid Sr. (BH)
160
1.)Andrew Reall Jr. (Pono)
2.)Braeden Campbell So. (BH)
3.)Connor Winfield Sr. (Narr)
4.)Dylan Martins Sr. (John)
5.)Yuilcal Cruz Sr. (Cent)
6.)Andrew Pappas Jr. (CW)
170
1.)Isael Perez Jr. (Hope)
2.)Tyler Hunter Sr. (TG)
3.)Oliver Parker Sr. (CF/BVP)
4.)Nicholas Baccala Jr. (Pono)
5.)Caleb Sclama Sr. (BH)
6.)Luke St. Godard Sr. (Cumb)
182
1.)Spencer Fine Jr. (BH)
2.)Preston Marchesseault So. (Pono)
3.)Robert Amaral Sr. (EP)
4.)James Titre Sr. (Cumb)
5.)Tyler Herrera Sr. (Barr)
6.)Trevor O’ Connor Jr. (Pil)
195
1.)Corbin Maraia Sr. (Char)
2.)Imanol Tavares Sr. (Hope)
3.)Ben Wilcox So. (Woon)
4.)Michael Camarena Sr. (BH)
5.)Alejandro Taylor Sr. (LSA)
6.)Aaron Bolduc Jr. (Linc)
220
1.)Logan Reiner Sr. (SK)
2.)Andrew Alchihed Jr. (CW)
3.)Michael Diorio So. (Pono)
4.)Shane Raposo Sr. (Cumb)
5.)Kaz Morosetti Fr. (NK)
6.)Tyler Dellefemine Sr. (BH)
285
1.)Joseph Church Sr. (BH)
2.)Thomas Marvelli Sr. (Barr)
3.)Ason Jones So. (Cov)
4.)Alex Herrera Jr. (Woon)
5.)Jahdiel Acosta Fr. (Cent)
6.)Greg Hopkins So. (SK)
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Post by rhodywrestler on Feb 23, 2023 17:05:32 GMT -5
States Team Champion/top 10 Predictions, Individual state champ predictions and OW(s) and best finals match predictions:
Team top 10:
1) Ponaganset
2) Bishop Hendricken
3) Coventry
4) Hope
5) Central
6) East Providence
7) Cranston West
8) North Providence
9) La Salle
10) North Kingstown
Best Finals
170 Perez v Baccala
OW 106-145 Eneas Castillo
OW 152-285 Spencer Fine
106 Soe
113 Conlan
120 Ellis
126 Joyce
132 Meyers
138 Castillo
145 Bouyossu
152 Currier
160 Reall
170 Perez
182 Fine
195 Tavares
220 Reiner
285 Church
There are a few "upsets" here, if you will, the reality is this is my prediction and just thinking some kids are ready to make something big happen at a few of these weight classes. Good Luck to all this weekend and hope for a healthy and exciting tournament!
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Post by funkmaster on Feb 25, 2023 1:58:33 GMT -5
Eneas Castillo WOW just WOW, what a stunner. Rootin for that kid for sure
Connor Winfield with a huge win over Braeden Campbell
Alex Herrera in the semi finals with a big win over Ason Jones
Hulkow drops a tough match in the quarters against the bracket buster Denzel Monteiro (I had a feeling this kid would shake things up) not to mention Robbie Newton working his way through the bracket comfortably
Vincent Merlino with a big upset over the sophomore phenom Ben Wilcox
Yuilcal Cruz drops a tough one to Jacob Poore of EP
Just a handful of spectacular matches in day 1.
Day 2 should be nothing but GREAT wrestling all day.
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Post by bumper69 on Feb 25, 2023 9:58:55 GMT -5
Eneas Castillo WOW just WOW, what a stunner. Rootin for that kid for sure Connor Winfield with a huge win over Braeden Campbell Alex Herrera in the semi finals with a big win over Ason Jones Hulkow drops a tough match in the quarters against the bracket buster Denzel Monteiro (I had a feeling this kid would shake things up) not to mention Robbie Newton working his way through the bracket comfortably Vincent Merlino with a big upset over the sophomore phenom Ben Wilcox Yuilcal Cruz drops a tough one to Jacob Poore of EP Just a handful of spectacular matches in day 1. Day 2 should be nothing but GREAT wrestling all day. Eneas got a little lucky in that quarters and monteiro is very good, he just wrestled very little matches so he had a bad seed |
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