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Post by Wildfire on Feb 18, 2015 7:57:27 GMT -5
What will be the most exciting weight classes to watch in states? 120? 152? 160? Some of the rankings could go either way depending on the day! Can't wait! I'm thinking that 138 and 160 will be the semi and finals matches that you won't want to miss.
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Post by Wildfire on Feb 18, 2015 8:01:21 GMT -5
It's not all peaches and cream over there at Hendricken ya know. How does the Celico kid feel when he wins everything he can in middle school then can't even get a taste of varsity freshman year? Works hard and comes back for sophomore year and places 2nd at states to Cardosa only to lose his spot in the lineup to two freshmen as a junior. How frustrating must that be on top of the fact you never get to see a pretty girl during a school day? Horrible. I'm still not sure who Hendricken is sending to states at 132. Swanson or Celico?
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Post by wally on Feb 18, 2015 9:54:25 GMT -5
In terms of the BH debate, you have to understand they have a group of kids who have been working real hard, and their potential is finally starting to shine through. Like most programs in the last decade, they have grown, wrestled tough, and lost hard fought contests. You think about CW who put together four state titles with some great names, kids that when they got their start were nothing, but with continued work and effort, made a name for themselves on their team and in the state, then Cumby who finally dethroned them and then Vets with the same MO, kids who once they got their chance took hold. What your seeing now is a group of kids working towards that same goal with a great coach and achieving a dream. Yes they are a private school, yes they have the ability to take kids from programs around the state. But what you're missing is, they've always had that ability. Why haven't they been winning championship after championship? They had some of the most talented wrestlers in the state in the early 2000s, Turillis, Feel, Peliter (although he left early to pursue greater endeavors), Myers, DeCiccio, and Simone, just to name a few, but why didn't they hoist the title any of those years? Because teams go through cycles, up and downs years. BH is on a tremendous upswing, but you have incredible programs run by gentlemen like, Barbera and Gordon, who could easily take reign in the state in the next few years with that same gameplan. Give credit where credit is due, BH is the best and they proved it again this year congratulations to them, and they will always continue to compete, but there will be a day another team that doesn't don the Green and Gold will lift the trophy.
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Post by wally on Feb 18, 2015 10:50:31 GMT -5
This debate has been going on for years and years. In many cases, the decision to send your son to BH has to do with all aspects of the high school experience. I have been watching Hendricken students(whether athletic or not) grow into fine young men for many years now. Many parents feel the experience at BH supports them in developing a young man with character and respect. It's not all about sports for many of the parents I have met over the years. Let's stay focused on what is important. It's not the fact whether a parent decides to send their son to public or private school, it is the fact that the wrestlers in our state are preparing for the state tournament. There are many outstanding wrestlers throughout the state in both public and private schools, who are working very hard to be the best they can be. There are great coaches in both public and private schools, all of them spend countless hours away from their families and sacrifice a great deal to support those athletes. No wrestler is guaranteed the title, but whether they win or lose, they are guaranteed a life lesson. Let's be real, that's what should matter most. So, good luck to all the wrestlers and coaches throughout the state of RI! I look forward to a great weekend of wrestling.
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Post by fan4life on Feb 18, 2015 12:35:56 GMT -5
Haters are just going to hate. If kids are just choosing to go to bh, then thats fine. Every kids has a right to attend a private school. However, if kids are being recruited to go to bh, that is 100% illegal. So unless kids come out and say they were being recruited, all we can do is root against them.
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Post by fan4life on Feb 18, 2015 12:40:32 GMT -5
I was told brackets should be completed by monday night. Once brackets come out, lets get off bh topic, (I always root for the upset) and make semi predictions along with finals predections. I personally cant wait for quarterfinals, it the best round of wrestling.
Side Note: is eddy from ns still wrestling?
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Post by matfan on Feb 18, 2015 13:37:03 GMT -5
Does anyone know how refs get selected to work at States? For the most part the refs I have seen do a great job. There is one however that has repeatedly made some questionable calls as well as had a delayed reaction to potentially dangerous moves. Others have made the same remarks about this one ref. I am curious if there is some performance evaluation criteria that is applied when staffing the State Championships? again, the refs do a great job. It's just this one!
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Post by riwrestlingfan on Feb 19, 2015 14:34:37 GMT -5
I was told brackets should be completed by monday night. Once brackets come out, lets get off bh topic, (I always root for the upset) and make semi predictions along with finals predections. I personally cant wait for quarterfinals, it the best round of wrestling. Side Note: is eddy from ns still wrestling? I am not sure if or what weight he is wrestling. Hopefully somebody will inform us. He could be a wild card in some weight classes.
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Post by riwrestlingfan on Feb 19, 2015 14:35:38 GMT -5
I was told brackets should be completed by monday night. Once brackets come out, lets get off bh topic, (I always root for the upset) and make semi predictions along with finals predections. I personally cant wait for quarterfinals, it the best round of wrestling. Side Note: is eddy from ns still wrestling? I am not sure if or what weight he is wrestling. Hopefully somebody will inform us. He could be a wild card in some weight classes. I am not 100% positive, but I am pretty sure that the coaches vote on it. The top 7 or 8 refs getting votes work the states.
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Post by riwrestlingfan on Feb 19, 2015 14:46:48 GMT -5
I haven't coached in a long time, and I don't want to question the coaches, but there are a few moves that I would make if I was coaching. 138 is a really tough weight class with Howard, Lourenco and possible Soto in it. Many quality wrestlers like Gomez, Martinez, McCarron, and Brown will be fighting to just get on the podium. I think 145 is alot easier. Now I don't think any of those guys beat O'Connell but I wouldn't be surprised if one of them went to the finals if they moved up. If I coached them, I would push for them to move up. Not saying it would be easy with Caparco, Arruda, little Jerrel and Cargill in the weight class. I would do the same with DeSantis of Chariho. Now I think he is good enough to possible beat Fenwick and Conti, but I also think he might be able to beat Morvillo. I also think it would be easier to make the finals at HW. Just some thoughts for the possible coaches. Thoughts?
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Post by rulesguy on Feb 19, 2015 17:09:12 GMT -5
Does anyone know how refs get selected to work at States? For the most part the refs I have seen do a great job. There is one however that has repeatedly made some questionable calls as well as had a delayed reaction to potentially dangerous moves. Others have made the same remarks about this one ref. I am curious if there is some performance evaluation criteria that is applied when staffing the State Championships? again, the refs do a great job. It's just this one! The referees are evaluated on a yearly basis. These evaluations come 3 ways: testing, match evaluation (completed by the RIWOA trainer), coach evaluation and selection. The state tournament is officiated by those referees with the highest evaluations/coach selections (top 9 Friday night, top 8 Sat).
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Post by matfan on Feb 19, 2015 19:14:55 GMT -5
Does anyone know how refs get selected to work at States? For the most part the refs I have seen do a great job. There is one however that has repeatedly made some questionable calls as well as had a delayed reaction to potentially dangerous moves. Others have made the same remarks about this one ref. I am curious if there is some performance evaluation criteria that is applied when staffing the State Championships? again, the refs do a great job. It's just this one! The referees are evaluated on a yearly basis. These evaluations come 3 ways: testing, match evaluation (completed by the RIWOA trainer), coach evaluation and selection. The state tournament is officiated by those referees with the highest evaluations/coach selections (top 9 Friday night, top 8 Sat). Good to know! Thanks
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Post by madmax on Feb 19, 2015 23:29:01 GMT -5
Hendricken should win states as a team. What happens after that
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Post by maddog on Feb 19, 2015 23:37:16 GMT -5
Well, after that, hopefully RI has a good showing at New England's, and then we pack it up, and start all over next year...
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Post by madmax on Feb 20, 2015 0:06:55 GMT -5
Breaking news. After wining states again Henessey taking his coaching talents to CCRI to start a new wrestling program.
I mean who's second - third. Etc.
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Post by ephsfan on Feb 20, 2015 10:30:43 GMT -5
Breaking news. After wining states again Henessey taking his coaching talents to CCRI to start a new wrestling program. I mean who's second - third. Etc.
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Post by ephsfan on Feb 20, 2015 10:33:05 GMT -5
Benedetti beat Millen the other night. He also pinned Cole and beat Morvillo.
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Post by wrestling on Feb 25, 2015 12:30:40 GMT -5
Here are my newest rankings. I worked hard on these, so you will see alot of shakeups. However in many cases wrestler A beat wrestler B, wrestler B beat wrestler C, and wrestler C beat wrestler A. Here they are 106: 1. Merritt: Char 2. Nappi: BH 3. Bautista: Cumb 4. Brown: Cov 5. Mountain: LSA 6. Forgetta: Pon 7. Hamilton: WW 8. Leonard: Barr 9. Stephenson: TG 10. Turano: West 113: 1. Celico: BH 2. Bloom: MB 3. Pereschino: EWG 4. Porcaro: Cumb 5. Robichaud: Cov 6. Myers: Narr 7. Storrs: Char 8. DaPonte: TG 9. Watts: WV 120: 1. Cardoso: MH 2. Rivet: BH 3. Brown: Cov 4. Hussey: EP 5. Zaroogian: NK 6. Myers: Narr 7. Garcia: Woon 8. Martinez: MP 9. Wheeler: NP 10. Howard: Lin 126: 1. DiSano: BH 2. Jerez: Woon 3. Stamos: EWG 4. Creamer: Cumb 5. Leite: EP 6. Gomez: CW 7. Skiffington: SK 8. Lambert: Cov 9. Andrews: Sct 10. Fernette: Burr 132: 1. Torres: MH 2. Brodeur: Cov 3. Forand: LSA 4. Celico: BH 5. Teves: MB 6. McGill: Narr 7. Morra: Lin 8. Costa: Hope 9. Tougas: Cumb 10. Kreiger: NK 138: 1. Howard: MB 2. Lourenco: WV 3. Soto: John 4. Gomez: CW 5. McCarron: NP 6. Jacobsen: BH 7. Martinez: LSA 8. Brown: Cov 9. DaSilva: Lin 10. Duckworth: SK 145: 1. O'Connell: CW 2. Caparco: John 3. Arruda: BH 4. Cargill: Cumb 5. Jerrell: EG 6. Schafer: West 7. Thomas: WV 8. Cook: Pon 9. Monteiro: Char 152: 1. Bivona: SK 2. DiMauro: BH 3. Ribezzo: John 4. Sangarie: Cumb 5. Almonte: CW 6. Short: West 7. White: Smith 8. Smith: EG 9. Krupinski: Char 10. Salazar: WW 160: 1. Francis: LSA 2. Stewart: BH 3. Peoples: EP 4. Duran: SK 5. Hayes: Cumb 6. Wrzsesion: Char 7. O'Hara: EG 8. Pimental: MH 9. Harvey: Smith 10. Forestier: Hope 170: 1. Jarrel: EG 2. Lundston: EP 3. Johnson: BH 4. Acevedo: SK 5. Faria: Cumb 6. Lombardi: NK 7. Thiboudeau: MH 8. Adotevi: Hope 9. Balon: Lin 10. Luther: Mid 182: 1. Sauro: BH 2. Skawinski: Cumb 3. Potter: Pil 4. Chatell: Char 5. Moreira: NP 6. Saqib: Lin 7. Vigeant: John 8. Thiboudeau: MH 9. Robey: Barr 195: 1. Giorgio: Cumb 2, Martino: BH 3. Pierce: TG 4. Lombardo: MH 5. Pare: SK 6. Zanni: NP 7. Soares: John 8. Howard: Smith 9. Urena: WW 10. Beaudreau: Char 220: 1. Fenwick: MH 2. DeSantis: Char 3. Conti: John 4. O'Conner: BH 5. Samek: Burr 6. Richards: Hope 7. Pereira: Pil 8. Pearce: SK 9. Africo: NP 10. Vickers: TG 285: 1. Morvillo: Barr 2. Millen: Narr 3. Brown: NK 4. Cole: BH 5. Oliveira: NP 6. Kenny: John 7. Benedetti: EP 8. Toribio: Hope 9. Ariyan: Smith 10.Brayall: Lin 152 is so wrong it is not even funny WW should be up above Krupinskinny that not even a question everyone should completely discard the 152 rankings
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Post by finalist on Feb 25, 2015 17:11:42 GMT -5
So you want to discard the 152 ranks because the 10th ranked guy should be 9 ?
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Post by riwrestlingfan on Feb 25, 2015 22:34:09 GMT -5
So you want to discard the 152 ranks because the 10th ranked guy should be 9 ? Haha, he is also forgetting to mention that the 10th ranked guy has had so many bad losses this year. The only thing that matters is Bivona vs DiMauro.
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