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Post by jjwrestler42 on Feb 16, 2015 8:05:48 GMT -5
Ok enough of the Hendricken lovefest. The success of high school programs depends greatly upon youth feeder programs. Hendricken has no such program but poaches and feeds off of taxpayer funded programs all over the state. Screw Hendricken.
Can we get back to the rankings?
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Post by thewave on Feb 16, 2015 8:59:43 GMT -5
Finals predictions?
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Post by wrestlingfan138 on Feb 16, 2015 9:13:37 GMT -5
Is Bivona going 160 or 152? We would have to put him in finals for whatever weight he goes if he did beat Francis and 160 and Dimauro at 152....
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Post by madmax on Feb 16, 2015 9:16:38 GMT -5
Bivona I heard is going 52
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Post by riwrestlingfan on Feb 16, 2015 16:34:09 GMT -5
Here are my newest rankings. I worked hard on these, so you will see alot of shakeups. However in many cases wrestler A beat wrestler B, wrestler B beat wrestler C, and wrestler C beat wrestler A. Here they are
106:
1. Merritt: Char
2. Nappi: BH
3. Bautista: Cumb
4. Brown: Cov
5. Mountain: LSA
6. Forgetta: Pon
7. Hamilton: WW
8. Leonard: Barr
9. Stephenson: TG
10. Turano: West
113:
1. Celico: BH
2. Bloom: MB
3. Pereschino: EWG
4. Porcaro: Cumb
5. Robichaud: Cov
6. Myers: Narr
7. Storrs: Char
8. DaPonte: TG
9. Watts: WV
120:
1. Cardoso: MH
2. Rivet: BH
3. Brown: Cov
4. Hussey: EP
5. Zaroogian: NK
6. Myers: Narr
7. Garcia: Woon
8. Martinez: MP
9. Wheeler: NP
10. Howard: Lin
126:
1. DiSano: BH
2. Jerez: Woon
3. Stamos: EWG
4. Creamer: Cumb
5. Leite: EP
6. Gomez: CW
7. Skiffington: SK
8. Lambert: Cov
9. Andrews: Sct
10. Fernette: Burr
132:
1. Torres: MH
2. Brodeur: Cov
3. Forand: LSA
4. Celico: BH
5. Teves: MB
6. McGill: Narr
7. Morra: Lin
8. Costa: Hope
9. Tougas: Cumb
10. Kreiger: NK
138:
1. Howard: MB
2. Lourenco: WV
3. Soto: John
4. Gomez: CW
5. McCarron: NP
6. Jacobsen: BH
7. Martinez: LSA
8. Brown: Cov
9. DaSilva: Lin
10. Duckworth: SK
145:
1. O'Connell: CW
2. Caparco: John
3. Arruda: BH
4. Cargill: Cumb
5. Jerrell: EG
6. Schafer: West
7. Thomas: WV
8. Cook: Pon
9. Monteiro: Char
152:
1. Bivona: SK
2. DiMauro: BH
3. Ribezzo: John
4. Sangarie: Cumb
5. Almonte: CW
6. Short: West
7. White: Smith
8. Smith: EG
9. Krupinski: Char
10. Salazar: WW
160:
1. Francis: LSA
2. Stewart: BH
3. Peoples: EP
4. Duran: SK
5. Hayes: Cumb
6. Wrzsesion: Char
7. O'Hara: EG
8. Pimental: MH
9. Harvey: Smith
10. Forestier: Hope
170:
1. Jarrel: EG
2. Lundston: EP
3. Johnson: BH
4. Acevedo: SK
5. Faria: Cumb
6. Lombardi: NK
7. Thiboudeau: MH
8. Adotevi: Hope
9. Balon: Lin
10. Luther: Mid
182:
1. Sauro: BH
2. Skawinski: Cumb
3. Potter: Pil
4. Chatell: Char
5. Moreira: NP
6. Saqib: Lin
7. Vigeant: John
8. Thiboudeau: MH
9. Robey: Barr
195:
1. Giorgio: Cumb
2, Martino: BH
3. Pierce: TG
4. Lombardo: MH
5. Pare: SK
6. Zanni: NP
7. Soares: John
8. Howard: Smith
9. Urena: WW
10. Beaudreau: Char
220:
1. Fenwick: MH
2. DeSantis: Char
3. Conti: John
4. O'Conner: BH
5. Samek: Burr
6. Richards: Hope
7. Pereira: Pil
8. Pearce: SK
9. Africo: NP
10. Vickers: TG
285:
1. Morvillo: Barr
2. Millen: Narr
3. Brown: NK
4. Cole: BH
5. Oliveira: NP
6. Kenny: John
7. Benedetti: EP
8. Toribio: Hope
9. Ariyan: Smith
10.Brayall: Lin
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Post by coachr on Feb 16, 2015 18:54:35 GMT -5
I find it sad some parents think that their son is getting a better education by going to a private school. History proves that's it's not the school but more of the student. Countless students from public schools Students high achieving university's year after year. The point I'm trying to make about wrestling though is that they play by different rules. That's the bottom line, and if anyone can disprove that, then I'd like it brought to my attention. I think the parents from Hendricken Wrestling team of 2013/2014 would disagree since 9 of the 14 varsity wrestlers had a 3.5 GPA or higher, not to mention many of the JV guys as well. Hendricken creates healthy competition from its young men in the classroom as well as the playing field. Many young men throughout the state will succeed no matter where they go to school - public or private, some others need to be pushed or challenged. Its our job as parents to know what is best for our children.
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Post by wrestlingfan138 on Feb 16, 2015 19:57:44 GMT -5
So you think private schools provide better education than public? I'm just trying to understand the reasoning here, not trying to pick a fight. Also, doesn't Hendricken require you to retain a certain GPA to stay in the school?
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Post by riwrestlingfan on Feb 16, 2015 21:10:14 GMT -5
I find it funny that people here are talking about D1 schools. Very few athletes in our state go on to become D1 athletes. Very very few wrestlers. Most who do, realize that D1 wrestling is a whole new level, and stop wrestling immediately. When was the last time we had a D1 All American wrestler from Rhode Island? With that said, I have zero issue with BH. Some of my favorite wrestlers have wrestled for BH. They have a great program, but what I have always noticed is how respectful these athletes have. That is what matters most
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Post by riwrestlingfan on Feb 16, 2015 21:16:24 GMT -5
My guess is hendriken has 5 in the finals.....11 on the podium. I think they might have all 14 on the podium. To me, I think it comes down to Celico at 132, Jacobsen at 138, O'Conner at 220, and Cole at HW. Those guys are the ones up in the air. I think it would be pretty cool to see a team place all 14 weight classes. I don't think any team has done this before. |
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Post by riwrestlingfan on Feb 16, 2015 21:17:43 GMT -5
SK will show the state on the 27th who the best is! Yeah they will show BH is. That said I think SK is a great team, and will have a good number of wrestlers placing at the states |
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Post by wrestlingfan138 on Feb 16, 2015 22:16:12 GMT -5
Well I suppose at least teams like Cumberland and SK get the satisfaction of knowing they built their programs from the ground up, probably Showing drop steps on the first day of practice. Pretty sure BH doesn't have to do that. That being said, BH will not have 14 on the podium, if they do it only reinforces everything Ive been saying here.
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Post by whenisteponthemat on Feb 16, 2015 22:51:22 GMT -5
In terms of the BH debate, you have to understand they have a group of kids who have been working real hard, and their potential is finally starting to shine through. Like most programs in the last decade, they have grown, wrestled tough, and lost hard fought contests. You think about CW who put together four state titles with some great names, kids that when they got their start were nothing, but with continued work and effort, made a name for themselves on their team and in the state, then Cumby who finally dethroned them and then Vets with the same MO, kids who once they got their chance took hold. What your seeing now is a group of kids working towards that same goal with a great coach and achieving a dream. Yes they are a private school, yes they have the ability to take kids from programs around the state. But what you're missing is, they've always had that ability. Why haven't they been winning championship after championship? They had some of the most talented wrestlers in the state in the early 2000s, Turillis, Feel, Peliter (although he left early to pursue greater endeavors), Myers, DeCiccio, and Simone, just to name a few, but why didn't they hoist the title any of those years? Because teams go through cycles, up and downs years. BH is on a tremendous upswing, but you have incredible programs run by gentlemen like, Barbera and Gordon, who could easily take reign in the state in the next few years with that same gameplan. Give credit where credit is due, BH is the best and they proved it again this year congratulations to them, and they will always continue to compete, but there will be a day another team that doesn't don the Green and Gold will lift the trophy.
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Post by dan05 on Feb 17, 2015 2:04:36 GMT -5
Here's the thing people need to stop complaining. Yes, Hendricken is good and they'll probly win states for many years to come. But, they have just started to become a powerhouse and people that aren't connected with them want to find a reason for why there teams are geting absolutely demolished. But, the reason does not lie within the school. It is in the athletes and coaches giving 100% on and off the mat. We have all seen great programs form rise and flourish but in time another program will be the best.
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Post by spiral101 on Feb 17, 2015 13:17:51 GMT -5
Here are my newest rankings. I worked hard on these, so you will see alot of shakeups. However in many cases wrestler A beat wrestler B, wrestler B beat wrestler C, and wrestler C beat wrestler A. Here they are 106: 1. Merritt: Char 2. Nappi: BH 3. Bautista: Cumb 4. Brown: Cov 5. Mountain: LSA 6. Forgetta: Pon 7. Hamilton: WW 8. Leonard: Barr 9. Stephenson: TG 10. Turano: West 113: 1. Celico: BH 2. Bloom: MB 3. Pereschino: EWG 4. Porcaro: Cumb 5. Robichaud: Cov 6. Myers: Narr 7. Storrs: Char 8. DaPonte: TG 9. Watts: WV 120: 1. Cardoso: MH 2. Rivet: BH 3. Brown: Cov 4. Hussey: EP 5. Zaroogian: NK 6. Myers: Narr 7. Garcia: Woon 8. Martinez: MP 9. Wheeler: NP 10. Howard: Lin 126: 1. DiSano: BH 2. Jerez: Woon 3. Stamos: EWG 4. Creamer: Cumb 5. Leite: EP 6. Gomez: CW 7. Skiffington: SK 8. Lambert: Cov 9. Andrews: Sct 10. Fernette: Burr 132: 1. Torres: MH 2. Brodeur: Cov 3. Forand: LSA 4. Celico: BH 5. Teves: MB 6. McGill: Narr 7. Morra: Lin 8. Costa: Hope 9. Tougas: Cumb 10. Kreiger: NK 138: 1. Howard: MB 2. Lourenco: WV 3. Soto: John 4. Gomez: CW 5. McCarron: NP 6. Jacobsen: BH 7. Martinez: LSA 8. Brown: Cov 9. DaSilva: Lin 10. Duckworth: SK 145: 1. O'Connell: CW 2. Caparco: John 3. Arruda: BH 4. Cargill: Cumb 5. Jerrell: EG 6. Schafer: West 7. Thomas: WV 8. Cook: Pon 9. Monteiro: Char 152: 1. Bivona: SK 2. DiMauro: BH 3. Ribezzo: John 4. Sangarie: Cumb 5. Almonte: CW 6. Short: West 7. White: Smith 8. Smith: EG 9. Krupinski: Char 10. Salazar: WW 160: 1. Francis: LSA 2. Stewart: BH 3. Peoples: EP 4. Duran: SK 5. Hayes: Cumb 6. Wrzsesion: Char 7. O'Hara: EG 8. Pimental: MH 9. Harvey: Smith 10. Forestier: Hope 170: 1. Jarrel: EG 2. Lundston: EP 3. Johnson: BH 4. Acevedo: SK 5. Faria: Cumb 6. Lombardi: NK 7. Thiboudeau: MH 8. Adotevi: Hope 9. Balon: Lin 10. Luther: Mid 182: 1. Sauro: BH 2. Skawinski: Cumb 3. Potter: Pil 4. Chatell: Char 5. Moreira: NP 6. Saqib: Lin 7. Vigeant: John 8. Thiboudeau: MH 9. Robey: Barr 195: 1. Giorgio: Cumb 2, Martino: BH 3. Pierce: TG 4. Lombardo: MH 5. Pare: SK 6. Zanni: NP 7. Soares: John 8. Howard: Smith 9. Urena: WW 10. Beaudreau: Char 220: 1. Fenwick: MH 2. DeSantis: Char 3. Conti: John 4. O'Conner: BH 5. Samek: Burr 6. Richards: Hope 7. Pereira: Pil 8. Pearce: SK 9. Africo: NP 10. Vickers: TG 285: 1. Morvillo: Barr 2. Millen: Narr 3. Brown: NK 4. Cole: BH 5. Oliveira: NP 6. Kenny: John 7. Benedetti: EP 8. Toribio: Hope 9. Ariyan: Smith 10.Brayall: Lin At 120 Danny Eastham of WW has PINNED 4 out those guys on that list. He's won 2 tournaments this season and has taken 3rd place twice. With one of those losses coming to Hussey of EP. He's a strong 120lber. |
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Post by matrat on Feb 17, 2015 13:21:11 GMT -5
By the ground up , are you once again referring to the "youth" programs because Cumberland and SK both have wrestlers ,as well as some BH wrestlers ,have also gone to "Elite" clubs such as NE elite, Marcaurele and MQ. These are athletes who have started in the youth clubs which in my opinion are awesome but at some point in their wrestling career may not have offered enough practice partners for them so they moved somewhere else to help better themselves just as a student may get a private tutor to help better their studies. This fact should not take away from their accomplishments only give them further credit for trying to better themselves. Best of luck to all wrestlers in states, work your hardest and believe in yourselves and no matter what school you attend you CAN find yourself on the podium!,
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Post by jjwrestler42 on Feb 17, 2015 15:27:04 GMT -5
It's not all peaches and cream over there at Hendricken ya know. How does the Celico kid feel when he wins everything he can in middle school then can't even get a taste of varsity freshman year? Works hard and comes back for sophomore year and places 2nd at states to Cardosa only to lose his spot in the lineup to two freshmen as a junior.
How frustrating must that be on top of the fact you never get to see a pretty girl during a school day? Horrible.
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Post by madmax on Feb 17, 2015 18:19:28 GMT -5
Hendricken is great. Great kids , great coaches. Team is scary.
Let's put that story in the rear view mirror and talk about wrestling.
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Post by come2wrestle on Feb 17, 2015 21:12:05 GMT -5
This is pretty silly. Who gives a darn. Wrestling is wrestling. Weigh in, do your job, get on that podium. Simple. No matter the school.
Boohoo, they are a powerhouse, they are a private school, they feed their kids oranges before a match, lol. Who cares. They have a formula, it's working, have programs in your area keep the kids within your area and that shouldn't affect your programs. Schools need to do their part in holding their academics to the highest standards, athletic programs need to do their job and become competitive all around. BH may attract athletes because of their continued success, but if that were the case in your district/town/city, you would have the same success if not even better because the community would also have buy in and full support. However, this is not the case in RI and people pick on little petty things and say how certain things aren't fair. The reason we haven't seen many of our athletes in Division 1 schools is because we are not producing Division 1 competition. It is not in our state's nature to breed pure athletes. Go to other states and see what the athletes are doing on a daily basis. Check out their nutrition on a daily basis. Check out how they study the sport they do on a daily basis. We are nowhere near the other competitive states and New Englands is a true showing of that. Please go back to the rankings, which is actually pretty fun, and sometimes it is done well enough that it comes out just as ranked here and then there are those few that shock us. Thank you to those that spend their time ranking these and making it interesting/fun for everyone else.
Next Weekend is coming in really fast.
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Post by matfan on Feb 17, 2015 22:27:49 GMT -5
What will be the most exciting weight classes to watch in states? 120? 152? 160? Some of the rankings could go either way depending on the day! Can't wait!
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Post by father on Feb 17, 2015 22:34:55 GMT -5
132 would have been if all the wrestlers who where there in the beginning stayed.
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