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Post by bumper69 on Feb 22, 2024 13:09:04 GMT -5
Finals Predictions 106 Lemovitz vs Newton 113 Bellini vs Hughes 120 Hood vs Farnsworth 126 Ellis vs Douangmala 132 Perez vs Martel 138 Joyce vs Armstrong 144 Vital vs McCarthy 150 Pappas vs Bouyssou 157 Currier vs Leischner 165 Reall vs Akdemir 175 Marchesseault vs Iaciofano 190 Fine vs Giannetto 215 Alchihed vs Wilcox 285 Herrera vs Duncan m Yeah white is the only option at 132
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Post by bumper69 on Feb 22, 2024 13:12:37 GMT -5
Potential state upsets 106: Cole will win 113: Caden beats Apollo 120: Aydin beats Stone 126: Peyton will win 132: David will win 138: kamel beats Sebastian 144: McCarthy beats Colby (great match) 150: no upsets happening here. Gabe will win 157: Rocco beats Currier 165: Andrew will win 175: Trevor beats Preston 190: Spencer will win 215: Ben beats Andrew Hwt : Kaz beats Alex This is just for fun not super serious. Let me know what you guys think. Alright well I wouldn’t consider Wilcox over aliched an upset, aliched benefited from a side of the bracket that had one placer last year. Also Rocco has no shot even making the semis nevermind the finals
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Post by wreslingdad on Feb 22, 2024 14:25:46 GMT -5
Potential state upsets 106: Cole will win 113: Caden beats Apollo 120: Aydin beats Stone 126: Peyton will win 132: David will win 138: kamel beats Sebastian 144: McCarthy beats Colby (great match) 150: no upsets happening here. Gabe will win 157: Rocco beats Currier 165: Andrew will win 175: Trevor beats Preston 190: Spencer will win 215: Ben beats Andrew Hwt : Kaz beats Alex This is just for fun not super serious. Let me know what you guys think. Alright well I wouldn’t consider Wilcox over aliched an upset, aliched benefited from a side of the bracket that had one placer last year. Also Rocco has no shot even making the semis nevermind the finals Considering Rocco beat Simon earlier in the season and lost to mconnel by 1 point I think shows that he definitely has a good chance of making the semis.
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Post by bumper69 on Feb 22, 2024 15:20:20 GMT -5
Has a team ever placed all 14 wrestlers? Because pono looks like a possibility, the only maybes I can see are at 190 and heavyweight
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Post by johnlynx on Feb 22, 2024 17:26:01 GMT -5
How did Raposos get such a low seed? 3x time state place finisher, ne qualifier last season, no in state losses this year. The low seed doesn't hurt him, he's on the better side of the bracket, but if there's one scratch, he gets Diorio in the round of the 16. The semis is happening at 215 in the quarters on top.
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Post by bumper69 on Feb 22, 2024 17:52:57 GMT -5
How did Raposos get such a low seed? 3x time state place finisher, ne qualifier last season, no in state losses this year. The low seed doesn't hurt him, he's on the better side of the bracket, but if there's one scratch, he gets Diorio in the round of the 16. The semis is happening at 215 in the quarters on top. I was wondering the same thing but he hasn’t really wrestled much this year. He didn’t face any of the top 5 seeds alone including Wilcox, he’s basically faced like 3 matches this year. Same can be said for dacosta at 157. Both weights have 6 placers. If anything too, that means that him or dason jones(6th placer last year) may not place and there’s a chance raposo Wilcox or diorio could be going for 5th as well
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Post by bumper69suxs on Feb 22, 2024 19:54:32 GMT -5
What are you talking about? If Thibidaux has enough PP to beat out Davis, then he’s on the top of the bracket. Whether he was hurt or not facing Pono, that will be the case. A sectional doesn’t solve anything. Coaches and wrestlers will still game the system. Bracket clearly needs to be adjusted. If it was fair, the bracket would be even on both sides but it’s not. Top spot has an easy ride. Hell, the D1-4 has an easier ride than anyone on the bottom. The bracket for half the weights isn’t fair. Look at 120 with more than likely Schifino Davis and farnsworth on the bottom half of the bracket while it’s just hood up top. Or 144 as I mentioned earlier in the year with Mian, schartner and now McCarthy wrestling on the bottom half and who’s up top? Only vital. Thibidaux is more than likely going to jump Davis in pp just because he placed last year as well, while if you look at the results, there are multiple people Davis has beaten by bonus that thibidaux has barely won against. I hate pono more than anyone else as a team but if an individual does screwed up, you can’t defend it. It would be different if they wrestled weights throughout the year or something but for it to be the last match of the season and doesn’t wrestle 1/2 his matches that day, you can’t tell me that’s fair
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Post by bumper69suxs on Feb 22, 2024 20:01:23 GMT -5
What are you talking about? If Thibidaux has enough PP to beat out Davis, then he’s on the top of the bracket. Whether he was hurt or not facing Pono, that will be the case. A sectional doesn’t solve anything. Coaches and wrestlers will still game the system. Bracket clearly needs to be adjusted. If it was fair, the bracket would be even on both sides but it’s not. Top spot has an easy ride. Hell, the D1-4 has an easier ride than anyone on the bottom. The bracket for half the weights isn’t fair. Look at 120 with more than likely Schifino Davis and farnsworth on the bottom half of the bracket while it’s just hood up top. Or 144 as I mentioned earlier in the year with Mian, schartner and now McCarthy wrestling on the bottom half and who’s up top? Only vital. Thibidaux is more than likely going to jump Davis in pp just because he placed last year as well, while if you look at the results, there are multiple people Davis has beaten by bonus that thibidaux has barely won against. I hate pono more than anyone else as a team but if an individual does screwed up, you can’t defend it. It would be different if they wrestled weights throughout the year or something but for it to be the last match of the season and doesn’t wrestle 1/2 his matches that day, you can’t tell me that’s fair You clearly need to learn how wrestling works so that you can have ground to stand on to pass your opinion. If it wasn’t legal then he wouldn’t be allowed to wrestle or duck that match. Grow up there’s better ways to spend your time on this earth
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Post by bumper69blows on Feb 22, 2024 20:13:00 GMT -5
Thibs got this ong. Bumper69 idk what ur on about? Opinions are like *s everyone has one but your stinks!
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Post by johnlynx on Feb 22, 2024 20:42:26 GMT -5
Call a spade a spade. Mt. Hope kid was rewarded for bumping away. He wrestled the one match to have enough powerpoints. If it was any one else but a pono kid, Div 1 coaches would not have rewarded the bumping away. The 3 coaches who voted for the special circumstance let their feelings toward Pono get in the way of the integrity of the bracket. They didn't want Pono to have another kid in the finals. A div 1 qualifier fixes all this.
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Post by bumper69blows on Feb 22, 2024 21:18:07 GMT -5
Call a spade a spade. Mt. Hope kid was rewarded for bumping away. He wrestled the one match to have enough powerpoints. If it was any one else but a pono kid, Div 1 coaches would not have rewarded the bumping away. The 3 coaches who voted for the special circumstance let their feelings toward Pono get in the way of the integrity of the bracket. They didn't want Pono to have another kid in the finals. A div 1 qualifier fixes all this.
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Post by owen2atstates on Feb 22, 2024 21:19:59 GMT -5
I would just like to wish everyone good luck at the state tournament tomorrow, hope everyone wrestles to the best of their ability and there are tons of upsets, that’s what makes this sport enjoyable
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Post by bumper69blows on Feb 22, 2024 21:20:05 GMT -5
Who’s 1 seed tho? Exactly Thib on mt. Hope and not the Pono kid so quiet down lol boy.
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Post by porkchopchimp1 on Feb 22, 2024 21:38:23 GMT -5
Yes, but Maximos Beetoven is a sleeper in that bracket and possibly upsetting this bracket and placing top 3.
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Post by mthope* on Feb 22, 2024 21:54:07 GMT -5
Who’s 1 seed tho? Exactly Thib on mt. Hope and not the Pono kid so quiet down lol boy. Thib is quite possibly the worst 1 seed in the state, the fact there’s a genuine chance he doesn’t even make the state finals is SAD. Even if he does, I give him a maximum 69 before gabe absolutely f***s him in the finals. He placed in an awful weight class the year prior and wouldn’t place at any of the weights above or below him. Also mt hope has the worst team state title won in the last 5-10 years
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Post by JimmyM on Feb 22, 2024 23:18:05 GMT -5
Based on the current rankings if you have D1 sectionals, the following week you’ll have SEVEN D1 sectionals rematches in state finals. I’m not sure that’s a good thing. I think the best way to go is to have a seeding committee for 1 through 4 seeds (regardless of division) then let the rest shake itself out via D2/3 sectionals and D1 PowerPoints. If you want to put your guy up for Top 4 seed you have to abstain and let an alternate committee member fill in. Stipulate that D2/3 sectionals overrides any decision by seeding committee (e.g. D2/3 sectionals winner cannot be seeded below a D2/3 sectionals runner up). If you get 1-4 right the rest will for the most part shake itself out in the consolation rounds. There are enough coaches who know the field well enough to seed much better than what the current system spits out, and while no system will be perfect this would be the best solution.
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Post by smarsh on Feb 23, 2024 0:42:07 GMT -5
That is a lucid, intelligent, well-thought-out objection. However, true second solves this issue, change my mind.
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Post by oldmanwrestler on Feb 23, 2024 9:00:47 GMT -5
Who’s 1 seed tho? Exactly Thib on mt. Hope and not the Pono kid so quiet down lol boy. Thib is quite possibly the worst 1 seed in the state, the fact there’s a genuine chance he doesn’t even make the state finals is SAD. Even if he does, I give him a maximum 69 before gabe absolutely f***s him in the finals. He placed in an awful weight class the year prior and wouldn’t place at any of the weights above or below him. Also mt hope has the worst team state title won in the last 5-10 years All of you people on here slobbing for pono. Who cares what seed the 157 from pono got. If he wins out after he takes a loss in the quarters, then he still qualifies for the New Englands. You’re all worried about where these guys are going to lose in the bracket instead of worrying about where they can do well. Typical for RI wrestling.
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Post by oldmanwrestler on Feb 23, 2024 9:07:50 GMT -5
Call a spade a spade. Mt. Hope kid was rewarded for bumping away. He wrestled the one match to have enough powerpoints. If it was any one else but a pono kid, Div 1 coaches would not have rewarded the bumping away. The 3 coaches who voted for the special circumstance let their feelings toward Pono get in the way of the integrity of the bracket. They didn't want Pono to have another kid in the finals. A div 1 qualifier fixes all this. Amazing how many losers are awakened when their guy doesn’t get their way. Every year, pathetic parents and kids come on here and trash talk because they didn’t get their seed. Maybe worry about how your guy can win instead of worrying about where he will lose. If you’re worried about people hating pono, then stay in your own school system.
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Post by mthope* on Feb 23, 2024 10:05:21 GMT -5
Thib is quite possibly the worst 1 seed in the state, the fact there’s a genuine chance he doesn’t even make the state finals is SAD. Even if he does, I give him a maximum 69 before gabe absolutely f***s him in the finals. He placed in an awful weight class the year prior and wouldn’t place at any of the weights above or below him. Also mt hope has the worst team state title won in the last 5-10 years All of you people on here slobbing for pono. Who cares what seed the 157 from pono got. If he wins out after he takes a loss in the quarters, then he still qualifies for the New Englands. You’re all worried about where these guys are going to lose in the bracket instead of worrying about where they can do well. Typical for RI wrestling. I hate pono the team, not necessarily the individuals. So if someone should be seeded somewhere else, I’m not going to lie about it. They genuinely have a chance at finals at 106,113,120,126,132,138,144,157,165,175, and 215. We obviously know they recruited and it *. They’ve been awful before 2017 and it takes assembling the avengers to win Rhode Island states
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