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Post by shoot on Feb 13, 2014 21:51:50 GMT -5
I'm glad he was able to rehab in time...good luck to him
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Post by mikepeters on Feb 13, 2014 22:53:20 GMT -5
This brings to mind a serious question; could a wrestler take advantage of the rules and sit out until states to avoid the wear and tear of a full season? Would the benefits outweigh the obvious drawback being the lack of live competitive wrestling and any seeding repercussions? Is there a minimum match requirement and if not should there be?
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shoot
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Post by shoot on Feb 14, 2014 11:15:51 GMT -5
No kids should not be punished for injuries. And no, sitting out till states would be a horrible decision....you can't get in wrestling shape with out wrestling live matches. Kids coming back mid season have a hard enough time getting back into shape. Never mind the end of the season.
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Post by mikepeters on Feb 14, 2014 12:32:12 GMT -5
I bring it up because it seems like every year there are more and more kids who don't make an appearance until just before states. I understand the live wrestling argument, which is why I referenced drawbacks in my initial question, but you can't underestimate the effects the wear and tear of a full dual meet season can have. Some kids will have wrestled 40 matches by the time states arrives and others may have 4 or 5. So the 40 match wrestler has an automatic advantage over the 5 match wrestler?
Also, not every kid making a late appearance is due to injury. For some it may have been grades, disciplinary actions by their school, weight, etc. I don't think a kid should be punished for an injury but I also think a kid who has wrestled throughout the season should not be at a disadvantage come time for states.
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shoot
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Post by shoot on Feb 14, 2014 12:50:02 GMT -5
Wrestlers that want to succeed at a high level wrestleadd many matches a year as they can...that's how they stay crisp. Wrestlers that are successful at a high level wrestle an additional 0,30,40 matches in the off-season....so no I don't buy in to the argument that 40 matches is a hindrance come states. Just my opinion. I would hope many of them are looking past states and wanting 3,4,5 more matches the weekend after.
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Post by Wildfire on Feb 20, 2014 13:14:55 GMT -5
I was at a Warwick City practice today and I overheard an interesting rumor. Altieri possibly bumping to 126. How big of a wrench would that throw into the works at that weight? Anyone care to venture how D1 would seed that bracket if that were the case? It could screw up some team points if he caught a current 1-3 seed in the early rounds...
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Post by wrestle4life on Feb 20, 2014 13:46:20 GMT -5
Wildfire you might be right with all the working out he gained alot of muscle and weight may be s issue. His lnjury is 100% . Hope he stays 120 would win new englands after intense work he done for last month and half
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Post by Wildfire on Feb 20, 2014 14:00:05 GMT -5
The way I saw him practice today, going 120 or 126 won't matter. The kid looked like a beast on a mission...
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Post by maddog on Feb 20, 2014 15:52:09 GMT -5
Don't you have to certify at least once in the weight class you are going to wrestle in the state tournament??? He got hurt in his second duel meet, and has not wrestled since. I am not trying to start anything, but I am curious on the rule.
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Post by wrestle4life on Feb 20, 2014 16:27:55 GMT -5
Most cases yes but with injuries there are exceptions.
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Post by rulesguy on Feb 20, 2014 17:05:58 GMT -5
Certification is only a requirement to wrestle at the lowest possible weight. Since he is certified at 120, he is eligible for any weight above that as long as he weighs the appropriate amount.
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Post by wrestle4life on Feb 20, 2014 17:33:44 GMT -5
Thank you rulesguy for clarifying
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Post by madmax on Feb 20, 2014 19:59:59 GMT -5
Are people forgetting about Lincoln's 26. I would not be in a hurry to wrestle him.
I can see him in the NE finals.
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Post by wrestle4life on Feb 20, 2014 20:44:06 GMT -5
Not forgetting. Altieri would love to wrestle him but 120 tougher weight bracket so altieri staying 120
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Post by wrestle4life on Feb 20, 2014 20:55:50 GMT -5
D is great wrestler and great kid Lincoln lucky to have him
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Post by riwrestlingfan on Feb 21, 2014 13:23:33 GMT -5
Okay folks, here are my newest rankings. There is alot of scores that haven't been submitted to RIIL, plus some weight classes (132, 145, 220) are a mess because everybody is beating everybody. I will try to do one right before the states.
106:
1. Cardosa - MH
2. Celico - BH
3. Teves - MB
4. Hussey - EP
5. Williams - LSA
6. Persechino - EWG
HM. Diaz - NP
HM. Porcaro - Cumb
113:
1. Celico - BH
2. Lourenco - NP
3. Bloom - MB
4. Bross - Cumb
5. Jerez - Woon
6. Mello - Midd
HM. O'Brien - John
HM. Ricutti - EWG
HM. Howard - Lin
HM. Myers - Narr
120:
1. Altieri - WV
2. Davol - BH
3. Boudette - Cumb
4. Stamos - EWG
5. Arias - Hope
6. Lanphier - Char
HM. Kreigher - NK
HM. Rose - West
HM. Leite - EP
126:
1. D'Allesio - Lin
2. Soto - John
3. Forand - LSA
4. Howland - NP
5. Swanson - BH
6. Brodeur - COV
HM. Skiffington - SK
HM. Zaroogian - NK
HM. Creamer - Cumb
132:
1. Howard - MB
2. Nordby - Cumb
3. Lourenco - WV
4. Lancaster - MH
5. Martinez - LSA
6. Jacobsen - BH
HM. Gomez - CW
HM. Costa - Hope
138:
1. O'Connell - CW
2. Tedesco - John
3. Torres - MH
4. Danis - Cov
5. Rutledge - Midd
6. Clark - Pon
HM. Durkin - Cumb
HM. Widdfield - West
HM. Procopio - TG
HM. Arruda - BH
145:
1. Jerrell - EG
2. Travers - TG
3. Dimauro - BH
3. Noury - Pon
5. Duran - SK
6. Wolfang - LSA
HM. Ribezzo - John
HM. Lundston - Barr (Heard this might be the weight he is going for states)
152:
1. Labrie - EWG
2. Biovani - SK
3. Short - West
4. Borsey - Hope
5. Nelson - Narr
6. Tribelli - Cumb
HM. Amirault - WV
160:
1. Labrie - EWG
2. Peoples - EP
3. Stewart - BH
4. Leonard - John
5. Thibideau - MH
6. Adolevi - Hope
HM. Swanski - Cumb
HM. Mulligan - NP
170:
1. Dupre - Cov
2. Sauro - BH
3. Hayes - Cumb
4. Noury - Pon
5. Baptista - EP
6. Mulligan - NP
HM. Anderson - EWG
HM. O'Connor - Midd
182:
1. Gallagher - Narr
2. Boesch - BH
3. Perroni - MH
4. Rocchio - Cov
5. Conley - SK (heard this is the weight he is going for the states)
6. Valerio - LSA
HM. Riecke - EWG
HM. Zanni - NP
195:
1. Dziadkiewicz - NP
2. Conte - John
3. Giorgio - Cumb
4. Martino - BH
5. Lombardo - MH
6. Pierce - TG
HM. Burdick - West
220:
1. Neff - EWG
2. Fenwick - MH
3. Morvillo - Barr
4. Stubbs - Tol
5. DeSantis - Char
6. Scott - CE
HM. Millen - Narr
HM. Pare - SK
HM. Benedetti - EP
285:
1. Robey - Barr
2. Sauer - BH
3. Sousa - MH
4. Hebert - Cov
5. Winn - SK
6. Chapman - Narr
HM. Izzy - NP
HM. Costigan - Char
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Post by spiral101 on Feb 22, 2014 0:23:06 GMT -5
Okay folks, here are my newest rankings. There is alot of scores that haven't been submitted to RIIL, plus some weight classes (132, 145, 220) are a mess because everybody is beating everybody. I will try to do one right before the states. 106: 1. Cardosa - MH 2. Celico - BH 3. Teves - MB 4. Hussey - EP 5. Williams - LSA 6. Persechino - EWG HM. Diaz - NP HM. Porcaro - Cumb 113: 1. Celico - BH 2. Lourenco - NP 3. Bloom - MB 4. Bross - Cumb 5. Jerez - Woon 6. Mello - Midd HM. O'Brien - John HM. Ricutti - EWG HM. Howard - Lin HM. Myers - Narr 120: 1. Altieri - WV 2. Davol - BH 3. Boudette - Cumb 4. Stamos - EWG 5. Arias - Hope 6. Lanphier - Char HM. Kreigher - NK HM. Rose - West HM. Leite - EP 126: 1. D'Allesio - Lin 2. Soto - John 3. Forand - LSA 4. Howland - NP 5. Swanson - BH 6. Brodeur - COV HM. Skiffington - SK HM. Zaroogian - NK HM. Creamer - Cumb 132: 1. Howard - MB 2. Nordby - Cumb 3. Lourenco - WV 4. Lancaster - MH 5. Martinez - LSA 6. Jacobsen - BH HM. Gomez - CW HM. Costa - Hope 138: 1. O'Connell - CW 2. Tedesco - John 3. Torres - MH 4. Danis - Cov 5. Rutledge - Midd 6. Clark - Pon HM. Durkin - Cumb HM. Widdfield - West HM. Procopio - TG HM. Arruda - BH 145: 1. Jerrell - EG 2. Travers - TG 3. Dimauro - BH 3. Noury - Pon 5. Duran - SK 6. Wolfang - LSA HM. Ribezzo - John HM. Lundston - Barr (Heard this might be the weight he is going for states) 152: 1. Labrie - EWG 2. Biovani - SK 3. Short - West 4. Borsey - Hope 5. Nelson - Narr 6. Tribelli - Cumb HM. Amirault - WV 160: 1. Labrie - EWG 2. Peoples - EP 3. Stewart - BH 4. Leonard - John 5. Thibideau - MH 6. Adolevi - Hope HM. Swanski - Cumb HM. Mulligan - NP 170: 1. Dupre - Cov 2. Sauro - BH 3. Hayes - Cumb 4. Noury - Pon 5. Baptista - EP 6. Mulligan - NP HM. Anderson - EWG HM. O'Connor - Midd 182: 1. Gallagher - Narr 2. Boesch - BH 3. Perroni - MH 4. Rocchio - Cov 5. Conley - SK (heard this is the weight he is going for the states) 6. Valerio - LSA HM. Riecke - EWG HM. Zanni - NP 195: 1. Dziadkiewicz - NP 2. Conte - John 3. Giorgio - Cumb 4. Martino - BH 5. Lombardo - MH 6. Pierce - TG HM. Burdick - West 220: 1. Neff - EWG 2. Fenwick - MH 3. Morvillo - Barr 4. Stubbs - Tol 5. DeSantis - Char 6. Scott - CE HM. Millen - Narr HM. Pare - SK HM. Benedetti - EP 285: 1. Robey - Barr 2. Sauer - BH 3. Sousa - MH 4. Hebert - Cov 5. Winn - SK 6. Chapman - Narr HM. Izzy - NP HM. Costigan - Char I personally believe Aaron Travers wins the 145lb class and Williams at 106 definitely makes top 3. Also, Andrew Lourenco beating Celico in the 113lb class. |
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Post by riwrestlingfan on Feb 22, 2014 8:49:45 GMT -5
Okay folks, here are my newest rankings. There is alot of scores that haven't been submitted to RIIL, plus some weight classes (132, 145, 220) are a mess because everybody is beating everybody. I will try to do one right before the states. 106: 1. Cardosa - MH 2. Celico - BH 3. Teves - MB 4. Hussey - EP 5. Williams - LSA 6. Persechino - EWG HM. Diaz - NP HM. Porcaro - Cumb 113: 1. Celico - BH 2. Lourenco - NP 3. Bloom - MB 4. Bross - Cumb 5. Jerez - Woon 6. Mello - Midd HM. O'Brien - John HM. Ricutti - EWG HM. Howard - Lin HM. Myers - Narr 120: 1. Altieri - WV 2. Davol - BH 3. Boudette - Cumb 4. Stamos - EWG 5. Arias - Hope 6. Lanphier - Char HM. Kreigher - NK HM. Rose - West HM. Leite - EP 126: 1. D'Allesio - Lin 2. Soto - John 3. Forand - LSA 4. Howland - NP 5. Swanson - BH 6. Brodeur - COV HM. Skiffington - SK HM. Zaroogian - NK HM. Creamer - Cumb 132: 1. Howard - MB 2. Nordby - Cumb 3. Lourenco - WV 4. Lancaster - MH 5. Martinez - LSA 6. Jacobsen - BH HM. Gomez - CW HM. Costa - Hope 138: 1. O'Connell - CW 2. Tedesco - John 3. Torres - MH 4. Danis - Cov 5. Rutledge - Midd 6. Clark - Pon HM. Durkin - Cumb HM. Widdfield - West HM. Procopio - TG HM. Arruda - BH 145: 1. Jerrell - EG 2. Travers - TG 3. Dimauro - BH 3. Noury - Pon 5. Duran - SK 6. Wolfang - LSA HM. Ribezzo - John HM. Lundston - Barr (Heard this might be the weight he is going for states) 152: 1. Labrie - EWG 2. Biovani - SK 3. Short - West 4. Borsey - Hope 5. Nelson - Narr 6. Tribelli - Cumb HM. Amirault - WV 160: 1. Labrie - EWG 2. Peoples - EP 3. Stewart - BH 4. Leonard - John 5. Thibideau - MH 6. Adolevi - Hope HM. Swanski - Cumb HM. Mulligan - NP 170: 1. Dupre - Cov 2. Sauro - BH 3. Hayes - Cumb 4. Noury - Pon 5. Baptista - EP 6. Mulligan - NP HM. Anderson - EWG HM. O'Connor - Midd 182: 1. Gallagher - Narr 2. Boesch - BH 3. Perroni - MH 4. Rocchio - Cov 5. Conley - SK (heard this is the weight he is going for the states) 6. Valerio - LSA HM. Riecke - EWG HM. Zanni - NP 195: 1. Dziadkiewicz - NP 2. Conte - John 3. Giorgio - Cumb 4. Martino - BH 5. Lombardo - MH 6. Pierce - TG HM. Burdick - West 220: 1. Neff - EWG 2. Fenwick - MH 3. Morvillo - Barr 4. Stubbs - Tol 5. DeSantis - Char 6. Scott - CE HM. Millen - Narr HM. Pare - SK HM. Benedetti - EP 285: 1. Robey - Barr 2. Sauer - BH 3. Sousa - MH 4. Hebert - Cov 5. Winn - SK 6. Chapman - Narr HM. Izzy - NP HM. Costigan - Char I personally believe Aaron Travers wins the 145lb class and Williams at 106 definitely makes top 3. Also, Andrew Lourenco beating Celico in the 113lb class. |
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Post by riwrestlingfan on Feb 22, 2014 8:53:26 GMT -5
Spiral, all your predictions are very possible. 145 is a stacked weight class. Any of the top 5 could win it all. There relly isn't a favorite. In my opinion the field at 106 is wrestling for 2nd place behind Cardosa. Lourenco is very talented, however I would be surprised if he beats Celico, though upsets happen in the finals, every year
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Post by matfan on Feb 22, 2014 10:59:26 GMT -5
Does anyone know how many wrestlers a school can enter in states per weight class? I believe that only one can count towards team points but was wondering if there was a limit to how many could be entered.
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