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Post by coltrain5020 on Mar 8, 2012 16:46:42 GMT -5
People on here have literally spent three pages of posts complaining about two New England tournaments, USA Wrestling should have stepped in on this and told the Nashua people they can have a tournament but can not call it "New England" if RI has a USA sanctioned New England Tournament then it is the winners from the RI tournament that can call themselves the NE champion and use that to further themselves into the season at high level competition with the title NE Champ
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Post by allheart on Mar 8, 2012 18:11:57 GMT -5
People on here have literally spent three pages of posts complaining about two New England tournaments, USA Wrestling should have stepped in on this and told the Nashua people they can have a tournament but can not call it "New England" if RI has a USA sanctioned New England Tournament then it is the winners from the RI tournament that can call themselves the NE champion and use that to further themselves into the season at high level competition with the title NE Champ Slice it any way you want, fact of the matter is if you want a shot at the USA 2011 / 2012 New England Title in your weight class the only place you have a shot at it is in Coventry Rhode Island This Sunday. There are lots of other tornaments "for the best competition" as some would say, coming up from now till next years USA Sanctioned New England Tournament, where ever it might be. This year its in Rhode Island if we like it or not. If you want it, go get it, or don't, we all have the choice.
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Post by Timmy on Mar 8, 2012 21:09:13 GMT -5
People on here have literally spent three pages of posts complaining about two New England tournaments, USA Wrestling should have stepped in on this and told the Nashua people they can have a tournament but can not call it "New England" if RI has a USA sanctioned New England Tournament then it is the winners from the RI tournament that can call themselves the NE champion and use that to further themselves into the season at high level competition with the title NE Champ Slice it any way you want, fact of the matter is if you want a shot at the USA 2011 / 2012 New England Title in your weight class the only place you have a shot at it is in Coventry Rhode Island This Sunday. There are lots of other tornaments "for the best competition" as some would say, coming up from now till next years USA Sanctioned New England Tournament, where ever it might be. This year its in Rhode Island if we like it or not. If you want it, go get it, or don't, we all have the choice. Thats a joke. Check the brackets on trackwrestling.com for the USA "New England's" and tell me you honestly believe these are championship brackets. Some have few wrestlers and non-qualifiers from RI, CT, and MA. RI was just stubborn enough to screw the kids and make a joke of this tournament. USA Wrestling does their organization a huge injustice by putting their name on this. It makes them and the riywa look like a joke.
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Post by Sanctioning Joke on Mar 8, 2012 22:29:05 GMT -5
People on here have literally spent three pages of posts complaining about two New England tournaments, USA Wrestling should have stepped in on this and told the Nashua people they can have a tournament but can not call it "New England" if RI has a USA sanctioned New England Tournament then it is the winners from the RI tournament that can call themselves the NE champion and use that to further themselves into the season at high level competition with the title NE Champ Slice it any way you want, fact of the matter is if you want a shot at the USA 2011 / 2012 New England Title in your weight class the only place you have a shot at it is in Coventry Rhode Island This Sunday. There are lots of other tornaments "for the best competition" as some would say, coming up from now till next years USA Sanctioned New England Tournament, where ever it might be. This year its in Rhode Island if we like it or not. If you want it, go get it, or don't, we all have the choice. You have got to be kidding me. Who is telling you guys that the Coventry tournament is the real deal and only those kids that win there can claim the title of New England champ? Your coaches or the RIWA board? Do any of you realize that any Jabroni with a USA card can put in to sanction a tournament for a fee of about $40 or so, AND you can call it anything you want. Why do you think there are tens of tournaments called National blah blah every year. USA wrestling doesn't care, the New England committee dropped the ?USA fees to cut costs for families and coaches. Bottom line is there are 6 states that make up New England, and there are only 2 states that are in agreement with the Coventry tournament taking place, RI and CT. So believe what you want, but the true New England tournament is the one that the same people have been running up in NH this year.
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Post by allheart on Mar 9, 2012 9:32:59 GMT -5
So I guess the Jabronies in NH arn't smart enough to pay the 40.00 and figure it out. Cut costs, where? The NH tournament would have cost me at least 300 and proberly more like 400 by the time it was done. RI tournament is costing under 100. The RI tournament is the sanctiond USA Event with the USA NEW ENGLAND TITLE, NH is just another tournament, what don't you get? To call that tournament a joke belittles every wrestler everywhere, and you should be ashamed to call these young athelets no matter where they are wrestling a joke. Shame on you. Instead of insults and name calling try acting like adults, we all have a choice of what we say on here and where we go this weekend. Do and say what you will but at least try to do it without tearing anyone down, or continue to act like a child, your choice also.
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Post by Timmy on Mar 9, 2012 9:52:59 GMT -5
So I guess the Jabronies in NH arn't smart enough to pay the 40.00 and figure it out. Cut costs, where? The NH tournament would have cost me at least 300 and proberly more like 400 by the time it was done. RI tournament is costing under 100. The RI tournament is the sanctiond USA Event with the USA NEW ENGLAND TITLE, NH is just another tournament, what don't you get? To call that tournament a joke belittles every wrestler everywhere, and you should be ashamed to call these young athelets no matter where they are wrestling a joke. Shame on you. The wrestlers are not the joke. Go back and reread please. The kids deserve a true New England Championship Tournament. The powers that be in RI & CT decided to break away and THEY have made a joke of this TOURNAMENT. Tell me this, assuming your child participated in States in RI last week and qualified, how do you feel about non-qualifiers making it to this tournament? All of the kids fought hard last week partly to QUALIFY for New Englands but you could have skipped it altogether and still participated this week. You can call it whatever you like but it is not even close to a New England Championship tournament. Seriously there are brackets with 2-5 kids I think you know in your heart RI really screwed this up for the kids.
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Post by 950esc on Mar 9, 2012 10:03:01 GMT -5
Because a USA event means all wrestlers have to shell out more money for a USA card, and their coaches have to have a USA card. Might not be more money to people in RI and CT who already have a USA, but for the other 4 states who don't, that's a big deal. $35 for EACH athlete card and $35+$17 for coaches card plus background check. That's why the NE board didn't sanction the event with USA wrestling, because the majority of people in new england are not USA card members and the USA argument has been on going for the past 6 years. So being a "USA New England Champ", only matters to people who have a USA card. The ones competing in NH will be fine without the USA tag. If you want your child to compete in a tournament where there are only 2 or 3 kids in some brackets just to claim a title, so be it. Are you only interested in having a title? Are you the type to claim your son took 2nd in a National event, but leave out the fact there were only 2 kids in his bracket counting him? Or a RI state champ in a 1 man bracket? The rest are going where the competition is going to be. And by implying the tournament is a joke, does not imply the athletes competing are, just the "adults" who are acting like children because they couldn't have it their own way
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Post by allheart on Mar 9, 2012 10:04:37 GMT -5
I will definatly agree it is not what it should be in either place. The USA title is what we are wrestling for this week end, in your eyes it is nothing because the powers at be could not get togeather. We have, and will wrestle again, all the athelets in my sons weight division from both tournaments, but this week end we compete for the USA title and unfortunatly no matter where you go in many weight divisions all the top competitors will not be there. But rest assured they will be seeing each other proberly a few times before next years USA New Englands. One thing for sure is everyone that wants to wrestle this week end will and I whish them all well.
950 esc We are wrestling the usa event and should my son win he can add it to his 2 privious STATE TITLES this year. He has plenty of 1st place titles and hopfully will have plenty more this year, even more prestigious than a NH tournament title. One of his 1st place was at this years BIG RED, I am not going to list all his stats, but easy isnt one of them! I can't believe you are insulting my son and you don't even know him, (2 man brackets) grow up.
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Post by 950esc on Mar 9, 2012 10:16:57 GMT -5
Guess you answered my question. Good luck on your "title" allheart
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Post by allheart on Mar 9, 2012 10:20:33 GMT -5
No on the USA NEW ENGLAND TITLE, and Thank You I didn't choose where this tournament is being held, or who was going to compete in it or not, I do choose to wrestle at The USA Sanctiond event. I am sorry if that upsets you
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Post by Timmy on Mar 9, 2012 10:27:08 GMT -5
I will be completely honest with you, I was fully prepared to keep my mouth shut about this whole thing until Gibbons came on this thread and spouted off. He couldn't leave well enough alone. Now HE looks like the JOKE. He is part of the problem.
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Post by 950esc on Mar 9, 2012 10:32:17 GMT -5
doesn't upset me at all, you're the one taking it personally. Some are interested in competition, some are interested in claiming titles. I never stated your son was one of the people that were in a 2 man national bracket or a 1 person state bracket, but there were quite a few at the RI states. I merely asked if you were that type. I don't know you and not directing at your son or daughters bracket in particular, maybe it's not one with only 2-6 kids in it, maybe there are actually 10-12. When the tournament results and brackets are posted, you can compare them both and then count how many different states were involved in the bracket and then answer if really a new england champ.
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Post by allheart on Mar 9, 2012 10:35:07 GMT -5
Who the heck is Gibbons,lol.
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Post by Timmy on Mar 9, 2012 10:38:25 GMT -5
Heh I know the type. Suck and duck.
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Post by allheart on Mar 9, 2012 10:42:11 GMT -5
doesn't upset me at all, you're the one taking it personally. Some are interested in competition, some are interested in claiming titles. I never stated your son was one of the people that were in a 2 man national bracket or a 1 person state bracket, but there were quite a few at the RI states. I merely asked if you were that type. I don't know you and not directing at your son or daughters bracket in particular, maybe it's not one with only 2-6 kids in it, maybe there are actually 10-12. When the tournament results and brackets are posted, you can compare them both and then count how many different states were involved in the bracket and then answer if really a new england champ. Oh I see, your saying we have to compete in NH or it dosent count. we will run rite up there to prove a point we have already proved all year. We are wrestling in RI, want a piece come on down and get it, or just wait a week or a few and you'll have your shot because we wrestle year round. I am finding it hard to not address your IQ so this is it for me.
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Post by 950esc on Mar 9, 2012 10:46:17 GMT -5
Don't know why you are taking personally, already said I don't know you, just stating a fact about the RI brackets. Is that what is striking a nerve with you? How many are in your son or daughter's bracket?
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Post by Timmy on Mar 9, 2012 10:51:41 GMT -5
Don't know why you are taking personally, already said I don't know you, just stating a fact about the RI brackets. Is that what is striking a nerve with you? How many are in your son or daughter's bracket? He's hurt because he knows it's all true but he's saving his pennies so his son can be a Gene Mills "National" Champ this year. He'll suck weight and find just the right class you can bet on it.
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Post by allheart on Mar 9, 2012 11:00:53 GMT -5
So now you are attacking my personal finances and saying my sons accomplishments are from sucking weight. Go on tell me and all the others more about who I am. You must have an IQ that is off the charts and claivoyant to boot. Ya I am hurt because I am laughing so hard I fell off my chair.
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Post by Timmy on Mar 9, 2012 11:25:30 GMT -5
So now you are attacking my personal finances and saying my sons accomplishments are from sucking weight. Go on tell me and all the others more about who I am. You must have an IQ that is off the charts and claivoyant to boot. Ya I am hurt because I am laughing so hard I fell off my chair. I know exactly who you are but I will leave it alone. Your SONS are good tough wrestlers and seem like good kids. Good luck to your son this weekend. Would have loved to see what he could do up in Nashua this weekend. That's the real loss here. Good tough RI wrestlers, the best the state has to offer, will not be representing the state where they should be. That's a real shame. There are probably 5 - 7 kids down here that should be headed to Nashua.
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Post by helper on Mar 9, 2012 11:26:51 GMT -5
This is getting ridiculous. Please do not make me delete all these posts and lock the thread. Act like adults guys and stop bickering like the wrestling state committees.
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