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Post by thats2 on Feb 15, 2024 23:55:18 GMT -5
Vital over McCarthy 3-0 Thibodau i think weighed in but forfeited to Davis I got that match wrong I guess Vital is the real deal . Thibadeau I hear weighed in wrestled and won against EP then forefitted to Davis . Too bad that match didn’t happen |
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Post by powerhalf285 on Feb 16, 2024 8:39:38 GMT -5
The match probably didnt happen because that now keeps Thibedeau up top and forces Davis on Boysseau side of bracket.
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Post by bumper69 on Feb 16, 2024 9:05:35 GMT -5
The match probably didnt happen because that now keeps Thibedeau up top and forces Davis on Boysseau side of bracket. Which genuinely * because Davis was undefeated all year and pretty much bonused everyone. They need to fix this system and include d2 wrestlers probably in the seeding or not allow dodging. Because by rule Davis beat Thibedeau so why should he suffer from Thibedeau not choosing to face him |
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Post by bumper69 on Feb 16, 2024 9:09:59 GMT -5
Honestly if Thibedeau didn’t weigh in at all I could let it slide but to wrestle one match and not the other means he intentionally dodged Davis and that’s not right. The system is so broken
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Post by margaritaman on Feb 16, 2024 9:15:59 GMT -5
The match probably didnt happen because that now keeps Thibedeau up top and forces Davis on Boysseau side of bracket. Which genuinely * because Davis was undefeated all year and pretty much bonused everyone. They need to fix this system and include d2 wrestlers probably in the seeding or not allow dodging. Because by rule Davis beat Thibedeau so why should he suffer from Thibedeau not choosing to face him Wasn’t a dodge I was there for the EP vs Mt hope match. The thibadeau kid had some kind of medical issue during his match but fought through it and was immediately iced up after match. |
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Post by thats2 on Feb 16, 2024 13:43:55 GMT -5
Which genuinely * because Davis was undefeated all year and pretty much bonused everyone. They need to fix this system and include d2 wrestlers probably in the seeding or not allow dodging. Because by rule Davis beat Thibedeau so why should he suffer from Thibedeau not choosing to face him Wasn’t a dodge I was there for the EP vs Mt hope match. The thibadeau kid had some kind of medical issue during his match but fought through it and was immediately iced up after match. Im sure it wasnt his decision.Coach didnt let his brother wrestle joyce either Its not what the kids want its up to the coaches . This is the new Mt Hope |
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Post by powerhalf285 on Feb 16, 2024 13:54:46 GMT -5
The match probably didnt happen because that now keeps Thibedeau up top and forces Davis on Boysseau side of bracket. Which genuinely * because Davis was undefeated all year and pretty much bonused everyone. They need to fix this system and include d2 wrestlers probably in the seeding or not allow dodging. Because by rule Davis beat Thibedeau so why should he suffer from Thibedeau not choosing to face him. I agree but this has been past practice for years in D1, its the reason the coaches have voted against a sectional for there division . To manipulate the bracket to best fit there athlete. No other state does this or has this type of system . Common opponents dont matter anymore, only head to head if they are 1 step above you in powerpoints. Here is another situation where we could have seen a good match possibly but based on a flawed seeding situation its more important to be on opposite side of the D2-1 at 150. Cant really blame the MH coach here. If the MH kid got hurt in previous match, then thats a different issue but the point here is that these situations are not new to Division 1 |
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Post by bumper69 on Feb 16, 2024 14:06:06 GMT -5
Which genuinely * because Davis was undefeated all year and pretty much bonused everyone. They need to fix this system and include d2 wrestlers probably in the seeding or not allow dodging. Because by rule Davis beat Thibedeau so why should he suffer from Thibedeau not choosing to face him. I agree but this has been past practice for years in D1, its the reason the coaches have voted against a sectional for there division . To manipulate the bracket to best fit there athlete. No other state does this or has this type of system . Common opponents dont matter anymore, only head to head if they are 1 step above you in powerpoints. Here is another situation where we could have seen a good match possibly but based on a flawed seeding situation its more important to be on opposite side of the D2-1 at 150. Cant really blame the MH coach here. If the MH kid got hurt in previous match, then thats a different issue but the point here is that these situations are not new to Division 1 If anything the seeding should go matches wrestled. To be fair pono did this too by not having the 157 face currier(helps them use special circumstances in that situation) but that’s ridiculous. |
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Post by magnanimous on Feb 16, 2024 14:54:32 GMT -5
Mt Hope forfeited five or six matches, they all wrestled against EP, did all 5 get hurt? A Dl sectional fixes all of this!
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Post by bumper69 on Feb 16, 2024 15:09:04 GMT -5
Mt Hope forfeited five or six matches, they all wrestled against EP, did all 5 get hurt? A Dl sectional fixes all of this! Further proving my point. Easily can do a d1 sectionals as well, make it 8 there and 8 from d2-d3 and call it fair. If you can’t place at sectionals, then you obviously won’t perform at the state tournament |
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Post by hipwhips on Feb 16, 2024 15:31:28 GMT -5
Has Bellini still not been wresling?
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Post by bumper69 on Feb 16, 2024 15:42:49 GMT -5
Has Bellini still not been wresling? He wrestled last night |
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Post by pat81 on Feb 16, 2024 22:48:21 GMT -5
Great news , everyone has the ability to open their own wrestling school and charge what they deem appropriate. You should totally open one and charge what you deem appropriate. Not sure what this post has to do with RI rankings... Let's keep it to that maybe. If you’re such an advocate for keeping it to the rankings, why’reyou even entertaining somebody who brought this up Mr. Shoot. Somebody who sends their kid to Iron Faith for 30 dollars a practice and their kid may not even place at sectionals I gather? |
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Post by pat81 on Feb 16, 2024 22:52:09 GMT -5
I have a theory here, I believe that shoot may be one of the people profiting off of these practices, just a theory, I’ll look into it later, break into the source code This site has always been ripe with people pulling the strings for RI wrestling and then acting as if everyone else should just work harder to get where they want to be. Club wrestling has become gross in RI, with wrestlers acting as if their club is their true team and clubs claiming the states winners for their own to further promote themselves. This phenomenon has done nothing to help wrestling as a whole, but has done a lot to promote the profit driven clubs in this state. Year round wrestling HAS changed the way things are done here and it is great, but the club owners and club members have to remember that clubs are just that - a pay to play location where you pay monthly or per session for the club owners to keep you feeling like you’ve improved whether you have or not. During the wrestling season clubs should be none other than a place to get some extra work in. Wrestlers wrestle for their school during the season, not their clubs. Should rename to Dr. Iron Faith - need health insurance in order to afford |
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Post by charles on Feb 17, 2024 8:28:58 GMT -5
Not sure what to pay attention to more this weekend, the D2/3 Sectional, or the degree in which the D1 coaches screw up the brackets at the seeding meeting?
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Post by bumper69 on Feb 17, 2024 8:36:43 GMT -5
Not sure what to pay attention to more this weekend, the D2/3 Sectional, or the degree in which the D1 coaches screw up the brackets at the seeding meeting? Honestly for sectionals, the only weight to look forward to is 138 and the heavyweight finals. But you’re absolutely correct, the brackets are going to be absolutely messed up, they could genuinely be worse the year we mentioned about Felix and Joziah fry. This could just be avoided if d2 could probably seeded in the tournaments, like gabe being the #1 overall seed or even if people didn’t dodge. Thibedeau clearly dodged Davis but noooo since he has returning placement that’s going to clearly be in his favor. I’m not even a huge pono fan but it’s going to be ridiculous and that screws over a talented and the better wrestler |
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Post by bumper69 on Feb 17, 2024 8:39:46 GMT -5
This site has always been ripe with people pulling the strings for RI wrestling and then acting as if everyone else should just work harder to get where they want to be. Club wrestling has become gross in RI, with wrestlers acting as if their club is their true team and clubs claiming the states winners for their own to further promote themselves. This phenomenon has done nothing to help wrestling as a whole, but has done a lot to promote the profit driven clubs in this state. Year round wrestling HAS changed the way things are done here and it is great, but the club owners and club members have to remember that clubs are just that - a pay to play location where you pay monthly or per session for the club owners to keep you feeling like you’ve improved whether you have or not. During the wrestling season clubs should be none other than a place to get some extra work in. Wrestlers wrestle for their school during the season, not their clubs. Should rename to Dr. Iron Faith - need health insurance in order to afford Hey be nice, certain moderators on here won’t like the stuff being said about their family doing their thing |
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Post by crosswrist20 on Feb 17, 2024 12:59:56 GMT -5
Not sure what to pay attention to more this weekend, the D2/3 Sectional, or the degree in which the D1 coaches screw up the brackets at the seeding meeting? Honestly for sectionals, the only weight to look forward to is 138 and the heavyweight finals. But you’re absolutely correct, the brackets are going to be absolutely messed up, they could genuinely be worse the year we mentioned about Felix and Joziah fry. This could just be avoided if d2 could probably seeded in the tournaments, like gabe being the #1 overall seed or even if people didn’t dodge. Thibedeau clearly dodged Davis but noooo since he has returning placement that’s going to clearly be in his favor. I’m not even a huge pono fan but it’s going to be ridiculous and that screws over a talented and the better wrestler RI needs an RPI system similar to ncaa D1.. It fixes everything.. Better wins and better record equals higher RPI, if you choose to not wrestle matches this “hurts” you. For the better guys, this won’t really matter but it appeases both sides who complain d1 has an advantage and also helps out the d2 kids like Gabe who should be the true 1.. |
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Post by magnanimous on Feb 17, 2024 14:28:51 GMT -5
Gabe being the #1 @ 150 would be the best case scenario then Thidedaux ducking Davis would put then against each other o n the bottom side of the bracket, which is fair and that's all the fans want!!
Don't worry a D1 sectional is coming!
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Post by oldmanwrestler on Feb 17, 2024 15:28:48 GMT -5
Gabe being the #1 @ 150 would be the best case scenario then Thidedaux ducking Davis would put then against each other o n the bottom side of the bracket, which is fair and that's all the fans want!! Don't worry a D1 sectional is coming! What are you talking about? If Thibidaux has enough PP to beat out Davis, then he’s on the top of the bracket. Whether he was hurt or not facing Pono, that will be the case. A sectional doesn’t solve anything. Coaches and wrestlers will still game the system. Bracket clearly needs to be adjusted. If it was fair, the bracket would be even on both sides but it’s not. Top spot has an easy ride. Hell, the D1-4 has an easier ride than anyone on the bottom. |
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