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Post by bumper69 on Feb 11, 2024 18:27:38 GMT -5
Just curious, which weight class do you guys think is deeper? 157 or 165 157 is more wide open where I couldn’t tell you for sure who wins while 165 is similar to like the year we had mason clarke win his senior year, it’s reall and then everyone else. Although I believe anyone 1-4 at 157 gets 2nd at that weight
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Post by BlastDbl on Feb 12, 2024 6:55:52 GMT -5
Is it top 6 who qualify for states at sectionals?
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Post by burns on Feb 13, 2024 11:49:08 GMT -5
Sectionals predictions?
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Post by powerhalf285 on Feb 13, 2024 14:19:48 GMT -5
Top 12 from D1 Top 8 from D2/3 Sectional
Sectional Team Prediction 1. Lincoln 2. Central 3. Scituate 4. Middletown 5. Toll Gate 6. S.Kingtown 7. Pilgrim
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Post by doublehalf55 on Feb 13, 2024 18:27:22 GMT -5
Is it top 6 who qualify for states at sectionals? It’s top 8 advance to states and they fill in spots 1-8 for D2, D1 has no qualifier
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Post by bumper69 on Feb 14, 2024 12:32:56 GMT -5
I feel like all clubs in this state shouldn’t charge a lot of their kids to wrestle or learn, clubs like iron faith are good but charging $30 a practice or an absurd amount of money is ridiculous for college or even little children. The club hasn’t even been around for 4 years and yet some college athletes or clubs charge for even less. Even mayo and blackstone were cheaper
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Post by shoot on Feb 14, 2024 16:28:58 GMT -5
I feel like all clubs in this state shouldn’t charge a lot of their kids to wrestle or learn, clubs like iron faith are good but charging $30 a practice or an absurd amount of money is ridiculous for college or even little children. The club hasn’t even been around for 4 years and yet some college athletes or clubs charge for even less. Even mayo and blackstone were cheaper Great news , everyone has the ability to open their own wrestling school and charge what they deem appropriate. You should totally open one and charge what you deem appropriate. Not sure what this post has to do with RI rankings... Let's keep it to that maybe.
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Post by blastdouble69 on Feb 14, 2024 21:23:08 GMT -5
I feel like all clubs in this state shouldn’t charge a lot of their kids to wrestle or learn, clubs like iron faith are good but charging $30 a practice or an absurd amount of money is ridiculous for college or even little children. The club hasn’t even been around for 4 years and yet some college athletes or clubs charge for even less. Even mayo and blackstone were cheaper Great news , everyone has the ability to open their own wrestling school and charge what they deem appropriate. You should totally open one and charge what you deem appropriate. Not sure what this post has to do with RI rankings... Let's keep it to that maybe. If you’re such an advocate for keeping it to the rankings, why’reyou even entertaining somebody who brought this up Mr. Shoot. Somebody who sends their kid to Iron Faith for 30 dollars a practice and their kid may not even place at sectionals I gather?
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Post by doublehalf55 on Feb 14, 2024 21:39:36 GMT -5
Great news , everyone has the ability to open their own wrestling school and charge what they deem appropriate. You should totally open one and charge what you deem appropriate. Not sure what this post has to do with RI rankings... Let's keep it to that maybe. If you’re such an advocate for keeping it to the rankings, why’reyou even entertaining somebody who brought this up Mr. Shoot. Somebody who sends their kid to Iron Faith for 30 dollars a practice and their kid may not even place at sectionals I gather? I have a theory here, I believe that shoot may be one of the people profiting off of these practices, just a theory, I’ll look into it later, break into the source code
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Post by oldmanwrestler on Feb 14, 2024 23:06:35 GMT -5
If you’re such an advocate for keeping it to the rankings, why’reyou even entertaining somebody who brought this up Mr. Shoot. Somebody who sends their kid to Iron Faith for 30 dollars a practice and their kid may not even place at sectionals I gather? I have a theory here, I believe that shoot may be one of the people profiting off of these practices, just a theory, I’ll look into it later, break into the source code This site has always been ripe with people pulling the strings for RI wrestling and then acting as if everyone else should just work harder to get where they want to be. Club wrestling has become gross in RI, with wrestlers acting as if their club is their true team and clubs claiming the states winners for their own to further promote themselves. This phenomenon has done nothing to help wrestling as a whole, but has done a lot to promote the profit driven clubs in this state. Year round wrestling HAS changed the way things are done here and it is great, but the club owners and club members have to remember that clubs are just that - a pay to play location where you pay monthly or per session for the club owners to keep you feeling like you’ve improved whether you have or not. During the wrestling season clubs should be none other than a place to get some extra work in. Wrestlers wrestle for their school during the season, not their clubs.
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Post by JimmyM on Feb 15, 2024 0:06:24 GMT -5
Club wrestling has done nothing but improve RI wrestling as a whole. Yes it helps the ones who put in the extra work to train there the most (as it should), but those guys share what they learn with their MS/HS teammates and then when they go on to graduate often go coach MS/HS teams (or open their own clubs). What would it do to the quality of wrestling in RI if you removed all of the HS coaches who were club products from the equation? I believe most if not all of the HS assistant coaches of the year over the past 5 or so years were club products. Just wait until some of the D1 guys RI has produced of late (who all wrestled club) come back to run teams. It’s nearly impossible to compete on a national or even New England level without wrestling year round and the only way to do that is through clubs. There are multiple fantastic clubs in RI, and perhaps we’d have more if people didn’t insist on constantly viewing them in a negative light. Also, I don’t pretend to understand the economics of running a club but I’d imagine the people painting clubs in a negative light on here don’t have as good a grasp on that as they think. Not sure why everyone is running here to cry about how people run their programs.
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Post by oldmanwrestler on Feb 15, 2024 8:49:43 GMT -5
Club wrestling has done nothing but improve RI wrestling as a whole. Yes it helps the ones who put in the extra work to train there the most (as it should), but those guys share what they learn with their MS/HS teammates and then when they go on to graduate often go coach MS/HS teams (or open their own clubs). What would it do to the quality of wrestling in RI if you removed all of the HS coaches who were club products from the equation? I believe most if not all of the HS assistant coaches of the year over the past 5 or so years were club products. Just wait until some of the D1 guys RI has produced of late (who all wrestled club) come back to run teams. It’s nearly impossible to compete on a national or even New England level without wrestling year round and the only way to do that is through clubs. There are multiple fantastic clubs in RI, and perhaps we’d have more if people didn’t insist on constantly viewing them in a negative light. Also, I don’t pretend to understand the economics of running a club but I’d imagine the people painting clubs in a negative light on here don’t have as good a grasp on that as they think. Not sure why everyone is running here to cry about how people run their programs. Nobody hates the year round wrestling clubs can provide. What people can’t stand is the teams within the teams. It’s become a popularity contest. If you can’t see it then you’re not paying attention.
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Post by thats2 on Feb 15, 2024 11:34:35 GMT -5
I feel like all clubs in this state shouldn’t charge a lot of their kids to wrestle or learn, clubs like iron faith are good but charging $30 a practice or an absurd amount of money is ridiculous for college or even little children. The club hasn’t even been around for 4 years and yet some college athletes or clubs charge for even less. Even mayo and blackstone were cheaper Great news , everyone has the ability to open their own wrestling school and charge what they deem appropriate. You should totally open one and charge what you deem appropriate. Not sure what this post has to do with RI rankings... Let's keep it to that maybe. . The monthly or drop in fees are the smallest. Clubs dont do much for a kid around here unless you drop the 50-100 hr for the privates . If you dont do privates than thats the clubs reason why your not progressing . It is what is 🤷🏻♂️ some club coaches actually have the audacity to run privates during scheduled club practices and let the assistants run the club practice
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Post by johnlynx on Feb 15, 2024 13:41:10 GMT -5
Sectionals will be a 3/4 team race between Central, Scitaute, Lincoln and Toll Gate. While rhwere are 7x weight classes where we know "whose most likely going to win," there are 4x weight classes that I'm watching closely this weekend...
Predictable Winners
106 Newton 132 White 144 Mian 150 Bouyssou 175 O'Conner 190 Gianetto 215 Wilcox
These are the 4x weight classes I'm watching closely
120/126 Where is Cam Davis going? Whatever weight class he goes, Central will be expected to win. This has more of an impact on the other teams. If Davis goes 126, Tollgate now favored to win 120.
138 - Is going to be intense, with the winner going a long way in helping his team win along with determining the state bracket and who places on the state podium.
Dib, Wirtz and Baker are the favorites to finish top 3. However, whoever is the 3rd seed will have to deal with Voute in the quarters. The 1 seed will get Mian in the semis, who could also pull off the upset. Expect the 138 state bracket to have some interesting round of 16 matchups involving a couple of these 5x wrestlers.
165 Rivera vs D'amore This could possibly be the sectional finals with a tight team race between Central and Lincoln. With only 5 finals matches after this, expect the gym to be loud.
HWT Herrera vs Duncan While this matchup won't affect the sectional team title, this will have a direct effect on the state bracket. The winner of the match, will be expected to reach the state finals while the loser will have to deal with NK in the semis
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Post by 401k on Feb 15, 2024 13:50:19 GMT -5
Club wrestling has done nothing but improve RI wrestling as a whole. Yes it helps the ones who put in the extra work to train there the most (as it should), but those guys share what they learn with their MS/HS teammates and then when they go on to graduate often go coach MS/HS teams (or open their own clubs). What would it do to the quality of wrestling in RI if you removed all of the HS coaches who were club products from the equation? I believe most if not all of the HS assistant coaches of the year over the past 5 or so years were club products. Just wait until some of the D1 guys RI has produced of late (who all wrestled club) come back to run teams. It’s nearly impossible to compete on a national or even New England level without wrestling year round and the only way to do that is through clubs. There are multiple fantastic clubs in RI, and perhaps we’d have more if people didn’t insist on constantly viewing them in a negative light. Also, I don’t pretend to understand the economics of running a club but I’d imagine the people painting clubs in a negative light on here don’t have as good a grasp on that as they think. Not sure why everyone is running here to cry about how people run their programs. listen to me closely, Jimmy. I don’t know if you don’t know what you’re talking about are you just haven’t been around long enough but I can speak as somebody who went to a club religiously for four years in high school and of those four years I didn’t pay a dime. Yet other kids going to the same club during the same time for the practices that I was going to, we’re paying monthly or practice fees to attend them. The clubs in Rhode Island play favorites based on ability and if you’re in the group that they truly care about you don’t even have to pay and I don’t want anybody to say that’s not true because I lived it. I also have close friends at a club located in Coventry that I am not going to name that also do not pay to attend that club. they just show up and get as much time as they’d like and based on how good they are again not naming any names. I would suggest speaking on a topic you know about or just not speaking at all because that was idiotic.
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Post by powerhalf285 on Feb 15, 2024 14:20:08 GMT -5
Sectionals will be a 3/4 team race between Central, Scitaute, Lincoln and Toll Gate. While rhwere are 7x weight classes where we know "whose most likely going to win," there are 4x weight classes that I'm watching closely this weekend... Predictable Winners 106 Newton 132 White 144 Mian 150 Bouyssou 175 O'Conner 190 Gianetto 215 Wilcox These are the 4x weight classes I'm watching closely 120/126 Where is Cam Davis going? Whatever weight class he goes, Central will be expected to win. This has more of an impact on the other teams. If Davis goes 126, Tollgate now favored to win 120. 138 - Is going to be intense, with the winner going a long way in helping his team win along with determining the state bracket and who places on the state podium. Dib, Wirtz and Baker are the favorites to finish top 3. However, whoever is the 3rd seed will have to deal with Voute in the quarters. The 1 seed will get Mian in the semis, who could also pull off the upset. Expect the 138 state bracket to have some interesting round of 16 matchups involving a couple of these 5x wrestlers. 165 Rivera vs D'amore This could possibly be the sectional finals with a tight team race between Central and Lincoln. With only 5 finals matches after this, expect the gym to be loud. HWT Herrera vs Duncan While this matchup won't affect the sectional team title, this will have a direct effect on the state bracket. The winner of the match, will be expected to reach the state finals while the loser will have to deal with NK in the semis 106 Newton 113 Hughes 120 Davis 126 Martins 132 White 138 Dib 144 Mian 150 Boysseau 157 McConnel 165 Watts 175 Oconnor 190 Bolduc 215 Wilcox 285 Herrara Pilgrim could put 3 or 4 in finals with 2 possible champs depending on seeding.
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Post by bumper69 on Feb 15, 2024 20:43:19 GMT -5
Any good matches happening tonight? Season should be wrapping up today or tomorrow so was curious what’s going on
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Post by thats2 on Feb 15, 2024 21:54:24 GMT -5
Any good matches happening tonight? Season should be wrapping up today or tomorrow so was curious what’s going on McCarthy vs Vital should be a good one whoever wins securing the 1 seed I think McCarthy wins this match. Carnell Davis James Thibadeux I see Davis winning this match.
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Post by bumper69 on Feb 15, 2024 22:00:56 GMT -5
Any good matches happening tonight? Season should be wrapping up today or tomorrow so was curious what’s going on McCarthy vs Vital should be a good one whoever wins securing the 1 seed I think McCarthy wins this match. Carnell Davis James Thibadeux I see Davis winning this match. Anyone have results of the matches yet?
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Post by magnanimous on Feb 15, 2024 22:25:01 GMT -5
Vital over McCarthy 3-0 Thibodau i think weighed in but forfeited to Davis
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