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Post by grabaneffinwrist on Feb 5, 2018 10:44:17 GMT -5
Just curious how is Shaw from Chariho 220 ranked 2nd! He took 4th at Smithfield, Eckert from Pilgrim won it and isn't ranked? Cirka pinned Eckert, Jolcimat and beat Hanson and lost to Hancock 4-3?? What about the Hope kid at 160? Also Woonsocket 170 Spanked Anderson 11-0!! Also at 170 Frenette was majoring Ladas 10-0 then pinned him why is he ranked ahead!! How about Freshman Dougherty Beating Gosselin!!!! 170 should be!! Harrison Lasalle Frenette Ponaganset Gonzalez Woonsocket Anderson Chariho Ladas SK 220 Is Wide Open Hancock Cumberland Cirka Ponaganset Jolcimat NP Marshall SK Eckert Pilgrim Seck Woonsocket Shaw Chariho The reason why Anderson Chariho lost 11-0 was due to a bad ankle twist in the first period which caused him to be carried off the mat at the end of the match. Props to him for sticking it through the end of the match! |
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Post by pepethecoach823 on Feb 5, 2018 12:12:52 GMT -5
Gonzalez is good it wasn’t only because of a bad ankle. He shut him out 11-0. It might’ve been a factor but that’s no excuse.
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Post by keepingintheknow on Feb 5, 2018 12:19:58 GMT -5
Saying Anderson was "spanked" or "no excuse" is a bit harsh. It's great to talk about standings and where people are ranked but you don't have to get so personal. These are high school teenagers and not professionals.
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Post by wizery12 on Feb 5, 2018 12:22:51 GMT -5
That’s the second time Gonzales beat him
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Post by grabaneffinwrist on Feb 5, 2018 13:06:49 GMT -5
Gonzalez is good it wasn’t only because of a bad ankle. He shut him out 11-0. It might’ve been a factor but that’s no excuse. This is true. But I don’t think the word “spanked” is appropriate in this case |
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Post by wiseowl on Feb 5, 2018 13:21:24 GMT -5
Just curious how is Shaw from Chariho 220 ranked 2nd! He took 4th at Smithfield, Eckert from Pilgrim won it and isn't ranked? Cirka pinned Eckert, Jolcimat and beat Hanson and lost to Hancock 4-3?? What about the Hope kid at 160? Also Woonsocket 170 Spanked Anderson 11-0!! Also at 170 Frenette was majoring Ladas 10-0 then pinned him why is he ranked ahead!! How about Freshman Dougherty Beating Gosselin!!!! 170 should be!! Harrison Lasalle Frenette Ponaganset Gonzalez Woonsocket Anderson Chariho Ladas SK 220 Is Wide Open Hancock Cumberland Cirka Ponaganset Jolcimat NP Marshall SK Eckert Pilgrim Seck Woonsocket Shaw Chariho Didn’t the Smithfield tourny just happen? Are results posted anywhere? How about people just calm down and wait for updates. Provide intel and it will get adjusted accordingly. These rankings are for fun, funk puts a lot of time into doing. These rankings will not effect Ponagansett’s chances at states. |
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Post by JimmyM on Feb 5, 2018 13:35:12 GMT -5
Just curious how is Shaw from Chariho 220 ranked 2nd! He took 4th at Smithfield, Eckert from Pilgrim won it and isn't ranked? Cirka pinned Eckert, Jolcimat and beat Hanson and lost to Hancock 4-3?? What about the Hope kid at 160? Also Woonsocket 170 Spanked Anderson 11-0!! Also at 170 Frenette was majoring Ladas 10-0 then pinned him why is he ranked ahead!! How about Freshman Dougherty Beating Gosselin!!!! 170 should be!! Harrison Lasalle Frenette Ponaganset Gonzalez Woonsocket Anderson Chariho Ladas SK 220 Is Wide Open Hancock Cumberland Cirka Ponaganset Jolcimat NP Marshall SK Eckert Pilgrim Seck Woonsocket Shaw Chariho The Smithfield tournament took place after this batch of rankings was made (2/1). Results will be reflected in the NEXT rankings. |
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Post by pepethecoach823 on Feb 5, 2018 15:18:13 GMT -5
Gonzalez is good it wasn’t only because of a bad ankle. He shut him out 11-0. It might’ve been a factor but that’s no excuse. This is true. But I don’t think the word “spanked” is appropriate in this case agreed but I never wrote the word spanked and if I did I definitely didn’t mean it but I stand by my no excuse if it was a lot closer then yes it could be used but it was a shut out. |
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Post by whichankletisgreen on Feb 5, 2018 15:39:13 GMT -5
This is true. But I don’t think the word “spanked” is appropriate in this case agreed but I never wrote the word spanked and if I did I definitely didn’t mean it but I stand by my no excuse if it was a lot closer then yes it could be used but it was a shut out. The fact of the matter is that the score was 0-0 when Anderson went in and injured his ankle, which caused a large disadvantage. I don’t have a side to pick, im just a witness of both matches they wrestled and the first one was very close and the second one would’ve been a difference of a couple points if he had not been injured |
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Post by outofshapewrestler on Feb 5, 2018 18:33:22 GMT -5
Saying Anderson was "spanked" or "no excuse" is a bit harsh. It's great to talk about standings and where people are ranked but you don't have to get so personal. These are high school teenagers and not professionals. I 100% agree. These are high school kids who bust their ass. Leave the personal attacks out of it. Funk roll does a great job, and tries to be accurate. Everyone needs to calm down. Great job Funk! |
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Post by atlantaal on Feb 5, 2018 20:37:34 GMT -5
I posted the Smithfield Tournament results in the Brackets section. It's usually just a matter of figuring out whether the tourney was covered by Florarena or Track Wrestling.
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Post by pepethecoach823 on Feb 5, 2018 20:52:29 GMT -5
The tourney was on flo for everyone wondering
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Post by anklepick6 on Feb 7, 2018 9:59:41 GMT -5
Funk is the best!
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Post by boston on Feb 7, 2018 10:02:11 GMT -5
The 160 weight class is deep. I've personally watched the freshman Cory Grifka from Mt Hope beat Burgess from Johnston twice. 10-6 in the opening Mt Hope tourney and 3-0 in a dual meet. Grifka went on to beat the Hope wrestler 5-1 in the final. I started following him after that tourney because I was shocked he beat Burgess. He has only two losses on the year 1-0 vs Dougherty and 5-1 vs Holedrege. He didn't wrestle vs Metcalf in a dual meet for some reason and also appears Brown didn't wrestle vs him in that dual meet. Those would have been two great matches to see. Looking at the schedule it Grifka will wrestle Villanova on tomorrow night in a tri meet with Cranston West. I've really put in my research on Grifka because I was so impressed with him at that holiday tourney and even more when I found out he was a freshman. It appears he is 25-2 on the year. My 160 rankings are as follows.
1 Villanova
2 Dougherty
3 Grifka
4 Burgess
5 Holdrege
6 Metcalf
7 Brown
Will be an interesting State Tourney at this weight class and could see anyone of these 7 taking home the title.
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Post by keepingintheknow on Feb 7, 2018 10:42:43 GMT -5
160 is a very tight group. My son's friend goes to NK so we follow that school as well. This is what I know: Brown had been out sick with the flu when they met with Mt. Hope so they put in their JV. It would have been a great match to watch. Villanova and Brown would have had a match last night but Villanova was out with an injury so they put in another 160. Not sure what the injury was or if he will wrestle Grifka this week. That would be a great match to watch. Sidenote - Brown beat Metcalf head to head.
Going to be an interesting states this year.
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Post by boston on Feb 7, 2018 12:02:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I was very interested to see the results of that Brown/Villanova match last night but saw that Villanova didn't wrestle. Thanks for clearing up the reason why. Planned on going to the tri meet tomorrow night to see Ponagansett but mainly for the Grifka/Villanova match. Hoping he wrestles. I will also be very interested to see how the seeding in the state tourney pans out with this weight class. Appears a lot of them missed each other during the year because of various reasons. Anyone have info on how the seedings are decided on?
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Post by keepingintheknow on Feb 7, 2018 12:19:47 GMT -5
I know seeding is by power points. So many points for Fall or decision, etc. I do know that there is more to it than just that. I believe if you are seeded 3rd, and you beat the 2nd seed head to head during the season, you get to go bump him down to third and take second. You can only bump one place. Fourth place could not pump second place. I am sure someone could help with a more in depth description. I am new to this and trying to learn myself.
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Post by rulesguy on Feb 7, 2018 13:32:31 GMT -5
I know seeding is by power points. So many points for Fall or decision, etc. I do know that there is more to it than just that. I believe if you are seeded 3rd, and you beat the 2nd seed head to head during the season, you get to go bump him down to third and take second. You can only bump one place. Fourth place could not pump second place. I am sure someone could help with a more in depth description. I am new to this and trying to learn myself. You have it mostly correct. Here is the best explanation/example I can give you: Wrestler's A, B, C, D, E, and F are being seeded for the 120 lbs. and the Power Points earned during the season are as follows: A=500, B=400, C=300, D=200, E=100, F=50. Thus, the initial order of seeding is: 1. A 2. B 3. C 4. D 5. E 6. F Seeding adjustment now starts with the lowest # of Power Points (F) and compares him to the wrestler directly above him (E). The question asked is did F beat E during the season. For this example the answer is no, so F is locked in as the 6 seed. 1. A 2. B 3. C 4. D 5. E 6. F - Locked We then move up to Wrestler E and ask if he beat the wrestler directly above him (D). For this example the answer is yes, so E moves ahead of D and the new seed order is now... 1. A 2. B 3. C 4. E - Moved Up 5. D 6. F - Locked We stay with E and now ask did E, beat C. For this example the answer is they are 1 and 1 on the season. However, E's win came in the dual meet and takes precedent over C's tournament win. So, E moves up over C. Our new order is.. 1. A 2. B 3. E - Moved Up 4. C 5. D 6. F - Locked We stay with E again and ask if he beat B. The answer is no, so now E is locked into the 3 seed. 1. A 2. B 3. E - Locked 4. C 5. D 6. F - Locked We return to our next original wrestler in line, Wrestler D. We ask if he beat the wrestler directly above him (C), for this example the answer is no. So, D is now locked in the 5 seed. 1. A 2. B 3. E - Locked 4. C 5. D - Locked 6. F - Locked We then move to wrestler C who has a win over wrestler B this season. However, Wrestler C cannot be compared to wrestler B. A wrestler may only be compared to one wrestler at a time and that has to be the wrestler directly above him. Since E is directly above him and we have already settled that order, C is now locked at the 4 seed. 1. A 2. B 3. E - Locked 4. C - Locked 5. D - Locked 6. F - Locked We then move on the wrestler B. Wrestler B has a tournament win over wrestler A and did not wrestle A in the Dual. Thus, Wrestler B is moved ahead of A. Since Wrestler B cannot go any higher than 1, he locks in at 1. 1. B - Locked 2. A 3. E - Locked 4. C - Locked 5. D - Locked 6. F - Locked We now can only consider Wrestler A and since he cannot move above B he locks in at 2. No other wrestler can be considered. Even if E has a win over A, E has already been locked in and the comparison cannot take place. Thus, the final order of seed is... 1. B - Locked 2. A - Locked 3. E - Locked 4. C - Locked 5. D - Locked 6. F - Locked For reference to Power Points. They are earned in Dual Meets throughout the year and through previous years placing in either the New England or State Tournament. A wrestler earns 30 Power Points for any win at the weight they are competing in at states and 24 points for any win at another weight class. Wrestlers also earn the Bonus Points = to the points earned for Major Decisions, Technical Falls, Falls, Forfeits, DQ's, etc. For example, a Major Decision win at weight is worth 4 points for the major and 30 points for the win at weight for a total of 34 points. I do not remember off the top of my head the Power Point values for Tournament Placement. However, The higher the placement the more points it is. Remaining at the same weight is an extra 10 points and the New England's is even more points than states. |
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Post by keepingintheknow on Feb 7, 2018 14:03:08 GMT -5
Thank you for that explanation. Sounds like a lot of word and a lot of attention to detail if things get missed. I'm sure the boys know by the end.
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Post by wrassler112 on Feb 8, 2018 6:58:05 GMT -5
Great explanation regarding power points. Do in season tournament wins/placements give points towards your power points total?
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