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Post by serge on Jan 14, 2023 21:27:04 GMT -5
Huge congratulations to Pono for winning Eastern States as a team! I do not believe any other New England team has ever won this event. Congratulations Mike Joyce and everyone involved in their program!
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Post by magnanimous on Jan 14, 2023 22:28:08 GMT -5
Serge, would not have been possible without the wrestlers you have developed over the years Preston Marchesseault and David Perez! Awesome contributors to the program!!
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Post by atlantaal on Jan 14, 2023 23:42:46 GMT -5
This is such a fantastic accomplishment for Ponaganset! It's also a great reflection on wrestling in RI and really in New England as a whole. The Eastern States Classic is one of the best wrestling tournaments in the Northeast each year, stocked with a lot of the top New York teams and some notable programs from other states such as nationally-ranked Wyoming Seminary, with a smattering of New England teams. Danbury attends pretty much every year, which I believe is one of the reasons that Danbury is Danbury. They've never won it but have cracked the top five a time or two and have had a couple of champs and several finalists, notably the Jack brothers and Jakob Camacho. I am reasonably certain that no NE team has ever won the Eastern States, so Ponaganset's win is just immense. I'm just as certain that no New England team has ever had three finalists or seven placewinners in this tourney. For the past 15 years I've tracked the results of the New York State Championships against the winners and placers from the Easterns (I've explained on this forum before that I have no life) and there are always a half dozen or so NYSPHSAA champs from either Division I or Division II and about two dozen place winners who won or placed at the Easterns. This year's runner-up Wambaugh is only a few years removed from winning the Division I team title. I never even imagined a New England team could win it outright, let alone a team from RI. I wonder what New York wrestling fans are thinking on Sunday morning?
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Post by rhodywrestler on Jan 15, 2023 9:18:11 GMT -5
This is pretty impressive, looks like a lot of teams didn't have full rosters(via Flo) and they did, but still impressive. They have put together a good team from all over the state. The CTE program is a huuuuge advantage I wonder if other schools will start to take advantage of that and the ability to recruit athletes through it like they have.
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Post by magnanimous on Jan 15, 2023 9:49:41 GMT -5
Rhodey, it seems you have little understanding of how "major" or national level in season tourneys are run, you have to petition your guys in, some teams are full some have only one wrestler, for example Scituate has one wrestler competing in PA today at esacpe the rock, guess who? Because of this process the level of competition is much higher than your standard locally run tournament and even teams like Minisik Valley who is nationally ranked get eaten up as the tournament progresses, similar to qualifying for NEs, and yes the cte is a huge advantage, but Danbury has kids on their roster from the local technical school and always has from what I understand. Didn't Cranston West do the same for years,and don't private schools like BH and Lasalle have the same advantage and almost every high school in RI has a CTE, that being said Ponaganset crushed the field, and no one expected them to win. Let alone by that margin!! But nice try underming the accomplishments of children. This must be the same guy who tried to downplay Gabes first double AA at Fargo!! envy has a name its rhodywrestler!!
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Post by rhodywrestler on Jan 15, 2023 10:23:33 GMT -5
Rhodey, it seems you have little understanding of how "major" or national level in season tourneys are run, you have to petition your guys in, some teams are full some have only one wrestler, for example Scituate has one wrestler competing in PA today at esacpe the rock, guess who? Because of this process the level of competition is much higher than your standard locally run tournament and even teams like Minisik Valley who is nationally ranked get eaten up as the tournament progresses, similar to qualifying for NEs, and yes the cte is a huge advantage, but Danbury has kids on their roster from the local technical school and always has from what I understand. Didn't Cranston West do the same for years,and don't private schools like BH and Lasalle have the same advantage and almost every high school in RI has a CTE, that being said Ponaganset crushed the field, and no one expected them to win. Let alone by that margin!! But nice try underming the accomplishments of children. This must be the same guy who tried to downplay Gabes first double AA at Fargo!! envy has a name its rhodywrestler!! I think you were ready to angrily jump on anyones post! Stated this was impressive and that from what was seen off flo the lineups were not full, that never stated to downplay their accomplishment just rather that bringing a whole team has it's advantages. Twist words how you will, also Gabe is a Phenom and anyone who would say otherwise is an idiot. I have never once mentioned anything poorly about a kid for that matter. Gabe taking 3rd and 1st was probably the best accomplishment in RI wrestling history. Do not twist words. Those who get defensive over what was stated regarding cte or private schools are also getting it misunderstood... just seeing if we should expect schools like west/cumberland/NK/Cent(PCTA) to take advantage of their schools programs ability to recruit in athletes. Hendricken and lasalle technically can't do this bc as a private school that is a violation of rules, but they probably do anyways. Again take a step back do not feel threatened. Re read the post and remember there are no voice tones in a text/email/thread like this. If this un twists the panties... Congratulations Ponoganset sorry my first response pointed out what I observed via Flo... So if it helps congrats for having a whole roster qualify, that too is impressive in itself. |
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Post by jim on Jan 15, 2023 11:32:04 GMT -5
First off, congratulations to Ponagansett. This team will literally go anywhere and battle anyone.
It's a true testimony to what alot of us have known is bubbling under the surface in Rhode Island for a number of years.
Something that can only be accomplished when the kids who have to win these type of events have had the opportunity compete against worthy opponents and experience the stress, the awkwardness, the long rides, the long days, and all the essence of what it means to be a winning wrestling culture.
I would like to point out and congratulate Matt Dimen of Middletown who wrestles for Wyoming Seminary for placing at the tournament. He was in one heck of a bracket.
Personally, I don't like the whole idea of praising a CTE program as a way to imply recruiting allegations blah blah blah.
It's such a backhanded way trying to diminish the accomplishment.
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Post by statechamp0405 on Jan 15, 2023 12:15:08 GMT -5
Great job pono wrestlers and coaches!
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Post by crosswrist20 on Jan 15, 2023 12:16:51 GMT -5
Congrats to Pono! Expect them to have same results at State and NE tourney as well. Would that be their second NE title in 5-6years ??
On the CTE point, kids are leaving their districts because of what Pono is doing, and I don’t blame them. For anyone to try and backhandedly diminish any of their accomplishments due to this is foolish. They develop and prepare kids for the next level unlike anyone else in the state. If you put these kids back in their original districts they may not be half the athlete they are or have any college opportunities that the Pono environment will likely provide for them. Aside from the wrestling, they’re put through tough course loads and are all aiming for prestigious schools to pair with the athletics They’ve done it numerous times, and have not gotten anywhere near the credit they deserve for it.. Kudos to them !!
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Post by statechamp0405 on Jan 15, 2023 12:24:18 GMT -5
Not to mention they even have college level coaching staff available to the student athletes. Coach amato is the man! I am definitely certain he has a lot to do with preparing the kids for the next level after high School and it shows. Seems like almost every year they have a kid or two heading out to an ivy League school after graduating. Pretty amazing thing they have going on there. Congrats to Pono! Expect them to have same results at State and NE tourney as well. Would that be their second NE title in 5-6years ?? On the CTE point, kids are leaving their districts because of what Pono is doing, and I don’t blame them. For anyone to try and backhandedly diminish any of their accomplishments due to this is foolish. They develop and prepare kids for the next level unlike anyone else in the state. If you put these kids back in their original districts they may not be half the athlete they are or have any college opportunities that the Pono environment will likely provide for them. Aside from the wrestling, they’re put through tough course loads and are all aiming for prestigious schools to pair with the athletics They’ve done it numerous times, and have not gotten anywhere near the credit they deserve for it.. Kudos to them !! |
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Post by rhodywrestler on Jan 15, 2023 15:07:12 GMT -5
Again... Nobody is undermining any kids accomplishments...
"The CTE program is a huuuuge advantage I wonder if other schools will start to take advantage of that and the ability to recruit athletes through it like they have."
Good coaches/schools bring in good athletes to their program, if we are cancelling the word recruit for a kinder, gentler word, can say "drawing-in" No idea why everyone is getting offended... If hendricken or lasalle does this it is called recruiting and people bash on them as opposed to saying they are great schools with great education(like this previous post states(and its agreed foster-glocester school systems are phenomenal)
people are so up in arms about the post for nothing. They are building something special in Glocester, but in the world of sports people take ideas/blueprints for success from other successful programs so all that was said was wondering if other schools will try to use that formula... If you are competitive and have access to do that why would you not?
Per NCAA studies only 4.3% of all high school wresters wrestle in college at any level, only 1% of high school wrestlers go on to wrestle division 1 this sport has one of the lowest rates of moving on, wrestlers tend to be in the higher echelon of GPA so If coaches like the guys at pono are helping keep that number up then thats the goal for the sport and this state.
please stop taking offense to a comment you did not read into enough/read into too much. If you look for a fight you will find it, if you look for peace you will find it too, it is up to the person looking to determine which side of the coin you are on.
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Post by atlantaal on Jan 15, 2023 16:15:15 GMT -5
Folks, maybe this is a good point to reflect that we're commenting on one of the shining moments in all of RI wrestling history, right up there with Gabriel Bouyssou and Patrick Feeley winning Fargo. So let's accentuate the positive. Below is link of the results from Floarena so you can check out the results. Note that there were other New England place-winners as well, which goes to show the quality of wrestling on the upswing in the 6-state area. arena.flowrestling.org/event/e21a7faa-b993-4d1c-9b96-fd73c97c8434 |
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