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Post by thecrossface on Jan 27, 2018 11:57:18 GMT -5
Do you actually go to the matches ?? Is this pure speculation ??
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Post by thecrossface on Jan 27, 2018 12:01:18 GMT -5
With Andrews back at 138 and lynch and McGill bumping back up what does that do the rankings do we put McGill over Rivet? Does Lynch go to the number 1 spot? And where does Andrews factor into the 138 rannings? What’s everyone’s thoughts? Rivet was DIRTY against the Cov kid !! Good wrestler,, no need to play NASTY !! |
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Post by JimmyM on Jan 27, 2018 13:51:25 GMT -5
Do you actually go to the matches ?? Is this pure speculation ?? If this is directed at me there is no speculation at all. It’s based on who beat who if someone’s above you and you beat them then you move ahead of them in the rankings. I try to keep it as systematic as possible and the rankings do not reflect my personal opinion of who will place where. |
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Post by magnanimous on Jan 28, 2018 20:49:35 GMT -5
BIg Weekend for RI Wrestler's Coventry (5 finalists) took 2nd at Ridgefield, Ponaganset (7 finalists) took 1st at Southington over Bristol Eastern! How did they do against some of Conneticut's top ranked wrestlers Fry over Longo 6-4, Longo is CT's #1 ranked wrestler in their all class rankings! Gillis had big wins over #2 Finn and #5 Jack both solid ranked CT wrestlers! Joyce majored Champagne #4 overall in CT 10-0 in the finals!! Clarke lost to #4 Redne 9 to 4 in the finals!! Brown won a close one 4 to 2 over #7 Walker Villanova up at@160 losing 4 to 1 to #1 Barrett in the Finals!!! Lynch wrestled beat New England Placer and #4 Angers!!! Riggs Beat #3 Nutter in OT 3-1!!! I think RI will do well in NE's this year!!! Too Bad Fallon won't be in the mix I think he was shoe in for Champ!!! www.connwrestling.com/staterankings2018 |
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Post by nwwrestling on Jan 30, 2018 11:55:31 GMT -5
With the 138 rankings, we also have to remember the fact that Lynch beat DiSano in State Finals last year. Caltagirone beat Lynch the last time they wrestled, so based off of the most recent matches, it seems as though the rankings should be set as: 1) Caltagirone 2) Lynch 3) DiSano |
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Post by nwwrestling on Jan 30, 2018 11:58:36 GMT -5
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Post by serge on Jan 30, 2018 12:52:47 GMT -5
Do you believe the kid had anything to do with the decisions made for him about wrestling. The Sean I know would be glad to wrestle anytime win or lose. Fact of the matter is that Sean has tons of respect for both of those wrestlers and would enjoy wrestling both regardless of the outcome. Don't put the blame on the kid! If you are going to blame something blame the system. Adults please remember kids read this forum. So I heard Caltagirone dodged Disano in this weekends tournament. Good strategy! Dodge Lynch at the Dual meet and get 1st seed so DiSano and Lynch are on the same side of the bracket. Tricky tricky. |
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Post by nwwrestling on Jan 30, 2018 13:26:48 GMT -5
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Post by alwayswatching on Jan 30, 2018 21:15:44 GMT -5
This is off topic, but Just wondering the rules, regarding an ineligible wrestler being allowed to dress and weigh in and act like they can wrestle just to throw the other teams match ups off. Is this legal? Doesn't seem fair at all!
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Post by atlantaal on Jan 30, 2018 22:56:30 GMT -5
BIg Weekend for RI Wrestler's Coventry (5 finalists) took 2nd at Ridgefield, Ponaganset (7 finalists) took 1st at Southington over Bristol Eastern! How did they do against some of Conneticut's top ranked wrestlers Fry over Longo 6-4, Longo is CT's #1 ranked wrestler in their all class rankings! Gillis had big wins over #2 Finn and #5 Jack both solid ranked CT wrestlers! Joyce majored Champagne #4 overall in CT 10-0 in the finals!! Clarke lost to #4 Redne 9 to 4 in the finals!! Brown won a close one 4 to 2 over #7 Walker Villanova up at@160 losing 4 to 1 to #1 Barrett in the Finals!!! Lynch wrestled beat New England Placer and #4 Angers!!! Riggs Beat #3 Nutter in OT 3-1!!! I think RI will do well in NE's this year!!! Too Bad Fallon won't be in the mix I think he was shoe in for Champ!!! www.connwrestling.com/staterankings2018I noted also that in the consolation finals at 195 in the Connecticut Challenge at Southington Sangare beat 6th-ranked Trinidad Gonzalez of Bristol Eastern 2-1, reversing their outcome in the finals of the recent Gorman tournament in Cumberland. This weekend saw some great results for RI teams and wrestlers, not the least of which was #1 team in RI Ponaganset beating #2 in CT Bristol Eastern. |
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Post by rulesguy on Jan 31, 2018 9:08:04 GMT -5
This is off topic, but Just wondering the rules, regarding an ineligible wrestler being allowed to dress and weigh in and act like they can wrestle just to throw the other teams match ups off. Is this legal? Doesn't seem fair at all! Wrestlers who are ineligible are not allowed to weigh-in. However, the word ineligible has a specific definition to mean NOT ALLOWED TO COMPETE AT ALL due to something like School Grading Policy, RIIL Suspension, and/or Weight Management Requirements. For any of these reasons (or similar) a wrestler is not allowed to even step on the scale and in some cases travel or dress with the team. However, if a wrestler is unavailable on a given night due to injury or team choice, that does not need to be disclosed to the opposing coaching staff. This is a common tactic used by coaches when trying to win a dual meet. Weighing in multiple wrestlers at a certain weight and winning the coin flip to control a weight class. Example: Team A has a STUD 160 lbs. and an average 170 lbs. Team B has a very good 160 lbs. and a not so good 170 lbs. Team B also weighs in a JV wrestler at 160 along with their good wrestler while Team A has no back up at 160. Should Team B win the coin flip, they may choose to give the 160 lbs. match send to Team A. This forces Team A to send their STUD first, allowing Team B to either send their JV or simply forfeit the match and bump up their 160 lbs up to 170. The hope is that these two matches will result in a 1-1 split rather than both matches being won by Team A. Why does Team A have to send their 160 lbs. if they know this is going to happen? If it's their responsibility to send first and they choose to save their STUD to try and chase the opponent up a weight class, they have to declare they are not sending a wrestler (remember, no back up). Team B can now send either their JV or their starter to take a forfeit and they still achieve the 1-1 split they hoped for. It is up to the coaching staff to be aware of these strategies and plan for them by weighing in the appropriate wrestlers at specific weight classes. Some teams don't have the bodies to cover these scenarios. That is why wrestling is not only a great individual sport, but a great team sport as well. The coaches set up strategies for both sides of the coin flip and each wrestler has a job to do to make sure that strategy is successful. Sometimes the wrestler's job is to go out and get his team bonus points (major, tech, fall), sometimes its to stay off their back for 6 minutes, and sometimes it is simply to step on the scale at a certain weight to keep the opponent's team at certain weight classes. |
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Post by alwayswatching1 on Jan 31, 2018 10:40:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the response, not going to put the team or coach on blast, but it was definitely not injury related.
Also when will the new rankings be posted
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Post by powpow7878 on Jan 31, 2018 12:58:22 GMT -5
When will the updated rankings be posted?
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Post by outofshapewrestler on Jan 31, 2018 13:09:28 GMT -5
Update 1/31/18 1. Brian Martin 160 from Ponaganset is the most underrated wrestler in the state. He had close matches with Rivet, Metcalf, and beat a few solid CT kids this past weekend. 2. 145 lb weight class is a buzzsaw 3. Rivet will not be wrestling the rest of the season because he is training for the NFL combine. I find all 3 of your comments not true. Never heard of Brian Martin and what weight did he wrestle in Southington Ct this weekend? Trevor Villanova wrestled 160 and kicked ass. 145 is good but let’s be real, 138 and 126 is the buzz saw. Devin Rivet is awesome, but NFL isn’t calling his agent. Nice try. Where are the new rankings? |
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Post by tapout56 on Feb 1, 2018 11:39:17 GMT -5
I did some research came up with these rankings
106
Fry Cov
Gillis Cumb
Gomes MH
Lynch Lin
Levalle JHS
Felix Cf/Tol
113
Joyce Pon
Riely Cumb
Holland Pilg
Remilina Cov
Iccabucci BH
Stevenson CW
120
Williams Bh
Passante Cu
Gomez CW
Dutcher Woon
Rizzo NP
McGovern Lsa
126
Clarke Cov
Merrit Ch
Fine Bh
Watts Pil
Faria Cumb
Lenord Barr
132
Brown Cov
Nappi Mh
Mcdowell Woon
Lombardo Sm
Hammilton WW
Dumas Ch
138
Disano BH
Caltigrone Cov
Andrews Pon
Soares Pil
Lyons SK
Castilio Woon
145
Lynch Pon
Bautista Lin
Young Cov
Kadar Westerly
Bunano Ch
Testa Jhs
152
Rivet BH
Mcgill Pong
Myers Narr
Goeslin Burr
Dourghty Ch
Tanish MH
160
Burgess JHS
Villinova Pon
Doughty Ch
Holdridge Wes
Brown NK
Metcalf Cov
170
Harrison LSA
Macomber Pon
Anderson Ch
Ladas Sk
Gonzales Woon
Panos Nk
182
Wreslizn Ch
Frennete Pon
Bradley CW
Bragga Mh
Swanson BH
Brazza Sk
195
Riggs Pon
Sangara Cu
Homelander Sk
Grigorian LSA
Duscha Ch
220
Hancock Cu
Circa Pon
Jocimat Np
Shaw CH
MArshal Sk
HAnson LSa
285
Dlebonis lSa
Amaral Ep
Guarcas Hope
Phelps Ch
Reynolds NK
Rimosythis Barr
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Post by keepingintheknow on Feb 1, 2018 14:51:54 GMT -5
This is just an observation only - but I think The Crocker Brothers from NK should be listed. At 220 You don't have Zack Crocker even listed in the mix. He beat Marshal from SK last night and beat Jocimat from NP already. At 285 should be C. Crocker at NK (not sure who Renolds). C Crocker has beaten Phelps from CH but has not yet wrestled LaSalle, EP or hope His record is 9-1. I am not any relation to them, just a fan.
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Post by 2poundsover on Feb 1, 2018 15:06:07 GMT -5
170 - Anderson Chariho beat Macomber Pong during the dual meet
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Post by JimmyM on Feb 1, 2018 17:06:38 GMT -5
Sorry this took a while, been busy lately and wanted to do a throughout job. As always if I missed anything please let me know.
2/1/2018 Power Rankings (with full explanations):
Fallon out at 113, Holland up to #1.
McGovern moves down to 120 from 126. He Beat Rizzo earlier in the year so he slots in at #5 for now, will be interesting to see how he does against the rest of 120, could potentially see him moving up the rankings before the end of the season.
Watts has been back and forth between 126 and 132. He’s been seeking out the toughest competition he can get each dual meet which is respectable and I think more wrestlers should start doing this. Keeping him at 132 where he has a higher ranking than he would be at if he were ranked at 126.
145 is probably the toughest class I have ranked so far this season. Young was the #2 in the previous ranking and he lost to Lyons from SK 6-4. However, the same week this happened Lyons lost to the #6, Reid, in double overtime. Making it tougher both Lyons and Young have not wrestled much at all this season, with both of them apparently getting late starts. Young recently pinned the #3 Kadaar who has beaten #4 Soares and #5 Bonanno so it would be questionable at best to drop Young (a two time state finalist) any lower than #2 in the rankings. At the same time, I have trouble moving Lyons all the way up to #2 in the rankings even though he beat the #2 Young, with him having lost to the #6 and not wrestling the beginning of the season. Furthermore, Lyons did not place at states last year. Young beat Kadar, Kadar beat Reid (6-3), Lyons beat Young, and Reid beat Lyons. Since Lyons beat Young, and Reid beat Lyons, they are both going to move ahead of Soares and Bonanno who neither has wrestled yet. However, Reid is not able to move ahead of Kadar because he lost to Kadar and Lyons is not able to move ahead of Reid because Lyons lost to Reid, even though he did beat Young. For now Young will get the benefit of the doubt and remain the #2.
Andrews in for Pono at 138 he hasn’t wrestled much this season so not much to go off of but I think most people would agree he should slot in at #3 or #4 and I’ll give former state champ Nappi the benefit of the doubt. Lynch up to 145 he’s the clear #1. Lynch up to 160 putting Lynch at #2 behind Rivet and I can’t wait to see that finals match. This is a great team move for Pono, who adds a potential high state placer in Andrews while still being able to see Lynch and McGill most likely be in the state finals. This could put them over the top. Not to mention that Villanova, previously #5 at 152 moved up to 160 and took out the #1. Pono the favorites for the team title now in my opinion.
Caltigirone over Disano at 138. Calitgirone place higher at NE’s last year, and also beat Lynch who beat Disano in last years state finals. Again this is not me predicting who will win it’s a systematic ranking based on who beat who, it is only right to have Caltigirone at #1.
Big shift in 160. Holdrege and Villanova both Bumping up. Holdredge lost to #1 Dougherty 3-0 and Villanova beat #1 Dougherty 3-0. Burgess also beat Dougherty 3-1. Villanova will be the new #1 at 160, Burgess the #2, Dougherty the #3, and Holdredge the #4. 160 is probably most deep and evenly matched weight class. I could see anyone on the list including honorable mention Grifka making an appearance in the finals.
A few other small changes. Feel free to ask if any clarification is needed.
Team:
1) Pono
2) Cov
3) Char
4) BH
5) SK
106:
1) Fry Cov
2) Gomes MH
3) Felix Tol
4) Gillis Cumb
5) Lynch Linc
6) LaValle John
HM: Lewis
113:
1) Joyce Pon
2) Holland Pil
3) Reiley Cumb
4) Remalina Cov
5) Stevenson CW
6) Iacoobucci BH
120:
1) Willaims BH
2) Gomez CW
3) Passante Cumb
4) Dutcher Woon
5) McGovern LSA
6) Rizzo NP
126:
1) Clarke Cov
2) Merritt Char
3) Fine BH
4) Leonard Barr
5) Perry SK
6) Faria Cumb
132:
1) Brown Cov
2) Watts Pil
3) McDowell Woon
4) Dunston Hope
5) Lombardo Smith
6) Hamilton WW
138:
1) Caltagirone Cov
2) Disano BH
3) Nappi MH
4) Andrews Pon
5) Soares Pil
6) Castillo Woon
145:
1) Lynch Pon
2) Young Cov
3) Bonanno Char
4) Kadar West
5) Reid BH
6) Lyons SK
152:
1) Rivet BH
2) McGill Pon
3) Myers Narr
4) Gosselin Burr
5) Testa John
160:
1) Villanova Pon
2) Burgess John
3) Dougherty Char
4) Holdredge West
5) Metcalf Cov
6) Brown NK
HM: Grifka MH
170:
1) Harrison LSA
2) Ladas SK
3) Frenette Pon
4) Gonzalez Woon
5) Anderson Char
182:
1) Wrzsien Char
2) Macomber Pon
3) Bradley CW
4) Sepulveda Pil
5) Saqib Linc
6) Monteiro John
195:
1) Riggs Pon
2) Sangare Cumb
3) Holmander SK
4) Grigorian LSA
5) Duscha Char
220:
1) Hancock Cumb
2) Shaw Char
3) Marshall SK
4) Crocker NK
5) Jocimat NP
6) Hanson LSA
285
1) Delbonis LSA
2) Amaral EP
3) Hauron CW
4) Guarcas Hope
5) Rimoshytus Barr
6) Crocker NK
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Post by alwayswatching on Feb 1, 2018 18:30:24 GMT -5
McDowell beat hamilton and hamilton also lost to lombard of Smithfield.
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Post by alwayswatching on Feb 1, 2018 18:35:49 GMT -5
I only say this because by the way you for rankings it makes sense to have McDowell above Hamilton, McDowell pinned Lombardo and Hamilton lost to Lombardo. And McDowell and Hamilton are 1-1
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