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Post by mikepeters on Feb 19, 2016 8:58:23 GMT -5
Who are the kids that will pull off the biggest upsets this year? We've mentioned Jerrell and Lundsten but who else do you all see?
Is Soto unbeatable at 138? Could McGill surprise again? Rivet?
How about 132? Lynch has obviously been peaking with his performance at Smithfield??
At 113, Noah Young is the clear favorite BUT I have it on good authority he was pinned by EP's Freshman at 113 in an "exhibition" match during the dual. Apparently neither kid made weight but they wrestled anyway. Young was winning but got caught in the 3rd.
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Post by mazalin on Feb 19, 2016 10:47:45 GMT -5
Young was winning the match 13-0 and Estrada caught young and pinned him in the 3rd. If Estrada can make weight, he will win freshman states @ 113 and make a splash at the varsity states.
Hussey looked dominate versus Myers with the tech-fall. Leite looked dominate versus Myers and has a chance at 126.
106 is open to the top 6 in the Division. Castiglione, Williams, Holland, Roderick, Stpehenson and Leonard all have a chance to win states.
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Post by wizery12 on Feb 19, 2016 11:33:55 GMT -5
I think the biggest upset will come at 195 with North providence beating Cumberland
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Post by Quickshot101 on Feb 19, 2016 12:20:08 GMT -5
I think anyone is beatable at states I think that 138 is possibly the hardest weight class to call for a clear cut champ. 132 is more interesting if Bloom ends up there i don't know his situation but if he stays at 126 he would have to be the favorite. Lynch looked good at Smithfield but I think that against higher level competition he might have some trouble but 132 and 138 are shaping up to be the most interesting weights and eventually the OW should come from one of those two weights. If I'm wrong with anything I said let me know that's just my honest opinion
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Post by mikepeters on Feb 19, 2016 12:38:21 GMT -5
I think anyone is beatable at states I think that 138 is possibly the hardest weight class to call for a clear cut champ. 132 is more interesting if Bloom ends up there i don't know his situation but if he stays at 126 he would have to be the favorite. Lynch looked good at Smithfield but I think that against higher level competition he might have some trouble but 132 and 138 are shaping up to be the most interesting weights and eventually the OW should come from one of those two weights. If I'm wrong with anything I said let me know that's just my honest opinion All valid points. I've made myself clear on jumping weight classes and becoming the automatic favorite. In most cases I don't agree but there are exceptions ie Cardoso going from 106 to 120 last year and being the clear favorite. I think 126, 132, & 138 are the deepest classes and most likely to produce the OW. I think there is also potential for some big upsets there.
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Post by neversaydie on Feb 19, 2016 12:45:43 GMT -5
132 is going to be a great bracket to watch. Bloom is defiantly going to be at 32. 138 is going to be as good of a bracket to watch. 145 is not far behind either of them. 126 finals will be a good one to watch, I think you will see dominance in the semis there. OW will come from 32/38/45
If Zuller ends up at 132 that makes that bracket the most interesting. If he goes 138 I don't think it changes the dynamics of that bracket as much
One more thing is Anderson the independent from CW, is he at 32 also?
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Post by suplex220 on Feb 19, 2016 12:50:45 GMT -5
Young was winning the match 13-0 and Estrada caught young and pinned him in the 3rd. If Estrada can make weight, he will win freshman states @ 113 and make a splash at the varsity states. Hussey looked dominate versus Myers with the tech-fall. Leite looked dominate versus Myers and has a chance at 126. 106 is open to the top 6 in the Division. Castiglione, Williams, Holland, Roderick, Stpehenson and Leonard all have a chance to win states. I would say Coventry 106 is the clear favorite @ 106. Young is the favorite at 113 but has had close matches with both Watts and Mountain this year in addition to the exhibition loss to Estrada. However Young did get caught in that loss so I would expect the top 3 to be Young, Watts, and Mountain in no particular order with Estrada taking a lower place. I agree Hussey is the favorite at 120. Should be interesting to see who else places as there are 6-7 competitive guys beyond Hussey that could place. Leite looks good at 126 but I don't think he will able to beat DiSano or Bloom.
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Post by mikepeters on Feb 19, 2016 13:06:28 GMT -5
132 is going to be a great bracket to watch. Bloom is defiantly going to be at 32. 138 is going to be as good of a bracket to watch. 145 is not far behind either of them. 126 finals will be a good one to watch, I think you will see dominance in the semis there. OW will come from 32/38/45
If Zuller ends up at 132 that makes that bracket the most interesting. If he goes 138 I don't think it changes the dynamics of that bracket as much
One more thing is Anderson the independent from CW, is he at 32 also? Andrews is the independent at 132. If Bloom and Zuller go 132 that becomes the deepest class.
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Post by neversaydie on Feb 19, 2016 13:14:20 GMT -5
So at 132 you have Celico D1 #1 Creamer D1 #2 Lynch D2 #3 Stamas D2 #2 Bloom D2 #1 Andrews D2 #4 Zuller D2 #5
Not positive about the D2 3,4,5 seed placement
Quite a bracket!!
Gomez I believe has to go 138 which adds depth to that bracket
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Post by Quickshot101 on Feb 19, 2016 13:34:25 GMT -5
So at 132 you have Celico D1 #1 Creamer D1 #2 Lynch D2 #3 Stamas D2 #2 Bloom D2 #1 Andrews D2 #4 Zuller D2 #5
Not positive about the D2 3,4,5 seed placement
Quite a bracket!!
Gomez I believe has to go 138 which adds depth to that bracket Gomez is going 132 which makes this weight just that much better
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Post by neversaydie on Feb 19, 2016 13:55:53 GMT -5
So at 132 you have Celico D1 #1 Creamer D1 #2 Lynch D2 #3 Stamas D2 #2 Bloom D2 #1 Andrews D2 #4 Zuller D2 #5
Not positive about the D2 3,4,5 seed placement
Quite a bracket!!
Gomez I believe has to go 138 which adds depth to that bracket Gomez is going 132 which makes this weight just that much better I didn't think he had the weigh ins to go 32. There is no other bracket with that much talent. No idea where he will be seeded at the moment.
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Post by wizery12 on Feb 19, 2016 14:06:05 GMT -5
If you think past results 145 has 6 past place winners in it
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Post by pepethecoach823 on Feb 19, 2016 15:07:50 GMT -5
152 metcalf will upset some people in the wide open weight class
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Post by riwrestlingfan on Feb 19, 2016 21:27:41 GMT -5
I agree that Cov is the favorite at 106, and 113. Hussey is the clear favorite at 120. 126 should be a show down between and Disano and Brown, with Leite being a dark horse 132 is loaded. Bloom and Stamas are the top dogs, but Celico could pull the upset 138. Soto should be the favorite but I wouldn't count out Rivet, Brodeur, or McGill 145. Is between Jerez and Teves 152 I don't see anybody beating Duran. I don't get the hype over Metcalf 160. Francis should win though Jerrell could pull the upset 170. Peoples should win easily. 182. I don't see Lunston beating Sauro. Too many distractions plus he is under sized. 195. Skawinski and O'Connor could be a good match (If O'Connor isn't really hurt) 220. Couple guys could win it. Cla, BH, West, etc 285. You can never predict HW. Especially the last two years.
Should be fun.
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Post by mikepeters on Feb 19, 2016 22:07:57 GMT -5
I agree that Cov is the favorite at 106, and 113. Hussey is the clear favorite at 120. 126 should be a show down between and Disano and Brown, with Leite being a dark horse 132 is loaded. Bloom and Stamas are the top dogs, but Celico could pull the upset 138. Soto should be the favorite but I wouldn't count out Rivet, Brodeur, or McGill 145. Is between Jerez and Teves 152 I don't see anybody beating Duran. I don't get the hype over Metcalf 160. Francis should win though Jerrell could pull the upset 170. Peoples should win easily. 182. I don't see Lunston beating Sauro. Too many distractions plus he is under sized. 195. Skawinski and O'Connor could be a good match (If O'Connor isn't really hurt) 220. Couple guys could win it. Cla, BH, West, etc 285. You can never predict HW. Especially the last two years. Should be fun. I like your breakdown. Looking at this could we see the end of Hendricken's run?
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Post by suplex220 on Feb 19, 2016 22:21:48 GMT -5
I agree that Cov is the favorite at 106, and 113. Hussey is the clear favorite at 120. 126 should be a show down between and Disano and Brown, with Leite being a dark horse 132 is loaded. Bloom and Stamas are the top dogs, but Celico could pull the upset 138. Soto should be the favorite but I wouldn't count out Rivet, Brodeur, or McGill 145. Is between Jerez and Teves 152 I don't see anybody beating Duran. I don't get the hype over Metcalf 160. Francis should win though Jerrell could pull the upset 170. Peoples should win easily. 182. I don't see Lunston beating Sauro. Too many distractions plus he is under sized. 195. Skawinski and O'Connor could be a good match (If O'Connor isn't really hurt) 220. Couple guys could win it. Cla, BH, West, etc 285. You can never predict HW. Especially the last two years. Should be fun. I like your breakdown. Looking at this could we see the end of Hendricken's run? Doubt it. Cumberland was looking like the #2 tournament team but their #2 ranked 120 has been out. Past that I don't see any teams coming close.
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Post by mikepeters on Feb 19, 2016 22:43:36 GMT -5
I like your breakdown. Looking at this could we see the end of Hendricken's run? Doubt it. Cumberland was looking like the #2 tournament team but their #2 ranked 120 has been out. Past that I don't see any teams coming close. What if a team got hot like Coventry or EP or LaSalle and won 4 weight classes? If Nappi and O'connor are out Hendricken will need kids like Johnson and Swanson to have good tournaments. I think Swanson could surprise by the way.
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Post by wiseowl on Feb 19, 2016 22:50:29 GMT -5
Doubt it. Cumberland was looking like the #2 tournament team but their #2 ranked 120 has been out. Past that I don't see any teams coming close. What if a team got hot like Coventry or EP or LaSalle and won 4 weight classes? If Nappi and O'connor are out Hendricken will need kids like Johnson and Swanson to have good tournaments. I think Swanson could surprise by the way. Years back Coventry won states without a single champion. I think BH will have at least 2 champs and enough back door points to hang on for the title.
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Post by fan4life on Feb 19, 2016 23:26:39 GMT -5
I think stamas will be d2 1 while bloom will be d2 2. What is the letter of the law with special circumstances? Just because bloom doesn't make weight and decides not to weigh in is that a special circumstance? Also being a returning state champ is only 100 extra points thats less than 3 matches. What does he get for being a returning new England champ? If stamas is ranked one and bloom isn't (by power points) who should be the #1? The kid who wrestled all year or the kid who picks and choses? Also think about impact: If bloom 1 stamas 2.semis is bloom vs creamer (b1 vs a2), and celico vs stamas (a1 vs b2). However is division 2 doesn't give bloom his "special circumstances" then we looking at bloom/celico and stamas/creamer. Could that mess up BH team run? Also what if bloom ranks like b5 with power points and stamas and lynch are ranked one and two, and they don't give bloom "special circumstances"? Who decides the special circumstance? Can someone post the power points from riil, I can't find them
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Post by riwrestlingfan on Feb 19, 2016 23:47:06 GMT -5
I don't see anybody beating BH. I think it will be closer than the past couple years, it still is BH's to miss. Coventry probable won't score a single point above 160. Though they are pretty strong below. I predict championships at 106 and 113. Brown could win it, but he is in a tough weight class. Brodeur could win it also, but that is a really tough division. Pelletier could place at 120. Robichaud if he can wrestle at his potential could pull off a 6th place. Metcalf can get on the podium, and Lambert is probable a long shot at the podium at 145. Nothing else.
Peoples should win it easy. Lundston should be in the finals, and could surprise Sauro but I don't expect it. EP has to many holes. 105 could get a 6th place at best. Estrada should get on the podium. Hussey should win it. Leite should be top 3 with an long shot at winning it. Sheldon at 132 is along shot at the podium. They could score some points at 145 and 152. But they get nothing after that. If Benedetti at HW didn't get hurt, they would have had an outside shot.
BH has to strong of a team. They are favorites to win it at 126, 182 and HW. They got legit shots to win it at 106, 132, 138, 195, and 220. They should also place at 160. And could also place at 145, and 152
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