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Post by Wildfire on Feb 13, 2015 17:34:16 GMT -5
Anyone have results that haven't been posted to RIIL or ProJo yet?
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Post by Wildfire on Feb 13, 2015 17:38:32 GMT -5
Hendricken is good because they are allowed to have students attend their school from the whole state and parts of massachusetts. They shouldnt be competing in RI. This gets me thinking, eliminate private schools and how would it effect public school teams. Put kids back on their hometown teams. How good would Mt Hope be with Cam Nappi and Nick Teves? How about Westerly with Abe Bloom and the Celico brothers? How about others? The Warwick schools would divide up Swanson, Jacobson, Johnson, and Stewart this year... |
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Post by hanmerlock16 on Feb 13, 2015 18:40:34 GMT -5
Hendriken gets a lot of the outstanding middle schoolers to wrestle for them and are always bringing in new waves of very talented kids . Cumberland on the other hand always has a very elite team and are all kids who live in Cumberland . They have a great program in middle and high school and it is really disappointing that they always fall short to winning the division as well as states to a team like hendriken
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Post by Wildfire on Feb 14, 2015 7:39:28 GMT -5
This gets me thinking, eliminate private schools and how would it effect public school teams. Put kids back on their hometown teams. How good would Mt Hope be with Cam Nappi and Nick Teves? How about Westerly with Abe Bloom and the Celico brothers? How about others? The Warwick schools would divide up Swanson, Jacobson, Johnson, and Stewart this year... Oh, and John Arruda too. :-) |
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Post by shoot on Feb 14, 2015 9:55:35 GMT -5
If they weren't in the interscholastic league those wrestlers would still be there. The towns wouldn't be any better there would just be 3 less teams to compete against. Good ,bad or indifferent BH, Lasalle, and MB would have to compete in a private / prep league. I'm not sure that puts those kids back in their home towns. In fact I'd bet it doesnt
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Post by wrestle4life on Feb 14, 2015 10:10:32 GMT -5
No matter what school your from only hard work and dedication matters. All those private schools how many 4x state champs. I see Coventry with 1 cranston west with 1 and warwick vets with 2. All public schools. Kevin does a great job with those kids they all want to win and they work hard for themselves and for their coach. Like I said before I am a warwick vets follower and I love the sport of wrestling. If you want to be a winner in this sport you must live it from the moment you wake up to the moment you go to sleep. HARD WORK pays off and AIOT of push ups! !!! Good luck all wrestling warriors in states
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Post by fan103 on Feb 14, 2015 11:05:35 GMT -5
BH is a fantastic program. I believe it is one of the best coaching staffs in the state. It's not easy to create an atmosphere where student athletes put team first, especially with so many outstanding individuals. Their student athletes understand the life lessons that make wrestling the greatest sport. I have never heard anyone say they are bad sports, or cocky. Think about some of the other top teams in NE, would you say the same about them? I don't care where their wrestlers came from, I know that when they travel around NE they make RI wrestling look respectful and respected. I think we should all take pride in that. Would states be more exciting if BH, LaSalle ans MB were not there? Maybe on the team scoreboard. I have a letterman jacket from HS, it doesn't say state champ and it doesn't fit but I will never throw it away, because I wrestled. Congratulations to the BH wrestlers and coaches because you get it. And if you win states, you deserve it.
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Post by wrestlingfan101 on Feb 14, 2015 12:25:21 GMT -5
BH is a great program and the school does draw some of the best athletes around the state. There coaching is obviously top notch as is there resources, not every kid can afford to go to such a school nor does one need too, to succeed. However the advantage is that they are a lot deeper in sports talent as in the ranks of each sport. I am glad they participate in the leagues of public schools as it makes for a greater challenge to defeat such a school but as said it has been done in many sports throughout the yrs. But unlike other sports the Benefit of wrestling is that not only is it a team sport but each individual can work to their potential to be the best they can be and prove it in the states.......... Good luck to ALL ............
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Post by Methoz777 on Feb 14, 2015 12:56:45 GMT -5
BH, Lasalle and Moses Brown deserve to be here in RI. the reason why Bishop Hendriken has so many good kids is because alot of them including moses brown and Lasalle wrestle off season all year with elite traveling teams. My son has had the pleasure of working with some of these kids at clubs Like MarcAurele, Mayo Quanchi, Smitty's Barn, Top Flight and Black Stone and various other clubs to name a few. they are good dedicated kids whose parents felt those schools were a better fit for them academically and athletically.
Kevin is also a good coach, he takes his kids all over to get them better, that includes facing the #1 team in the country, Blair Academy. If I was the coach and had these outstanding individuals on my team I wouldn't take the gas pedal off either, I'd keep hammering it until the team won the New Englands. They make RI better like Coventry, Cranston West, Cumberland, and Warwick Vets did. they're part of RI wrestling history and they're here to stay. I'm not in any way a fan of Hendriken, my kid wrestles for Mt.Hope, but I have a great many respect for those kids that keep working at getting better at this sport.
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Post by wrestlingfan101 on Feb 14, 2015 14:24:53 GMT -5
100 % agreed on !!!! This state would be lost without these private schools participating. Alot of these private schools around the Country eat,sleep and * wrestling due to nothing more than complete 100% dedication to the sport.........There are a select few in RI that are committed and their talents obviously stand out in RI !!
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Post by madmax on Feb 14, 2015 14:27:21 GMT -5
I personally am tired of watching private schools take some of our better local athletes not just wrestling. Baseball, football etc. Look at baseball, take the best pitchers - infielders - best hitters - put them all on same team your almost supposed to win a championship. It's almost a state all star team some years. Got nothing against private schools. Just wish they'd leave our top athletes alone.  Mainly cause I'm jealous. |
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Post by wrestlingfan138 on Feb 14, 2015 14:58:55 GMT -5
That's great you guys support them, and I'm sure they do work hard. However, there are many coaches who put time and effort into coaching these kids up from the beginning only to have them taken away. Facts are facts. With a student body of 1100 boys l, they already have way more to pick from than any other school in the state, add in the fact that they try and get athletes to come to the school and you get teams like this. The only thing they do is take away state championships and division titles from teams who actually have to play by the rules. If they want to participate in RIIL then put them in their own division and have them be considered "ri prep school state champs". Know the difference between a hard working group of kids and being able to geographically pick where you want your kids to be from.
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Post by litewtfan on Feb 14, 2015 23:59:06 GMT -5
I don't agree at all with the statement that the privates are "All Star" teams. BH is a powerhouse only because Coach Hennessey has worked his you know what off to create a great program. Not every wrestler on their team came with experience. He and his staff have done a remarkable job of coaching kids up and maximizing their ability. It is not true that they "recruit" wrestlers but it is true that winning draws other serious wrestlers that want to play for that program and coach. Two years ago BH lost to Cumberland in one of the closest State Tournaments ever. The next year they won their first State title in 10 years and then repeated. As far as the other private schools, they are consistently in the middle of the pack, competing but not dominating. A few years ago Cumberland, Cranston West and Warwick Vets all had runs of State titles and periods of dominance, yet I don't recall people crying about the privates being unfair then. Bottom line is give credit to BH wrestlers and Coach Hennessey for working their tails off and representing RI with class and just keep working as hard as they do to beat them.
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Post by tilter on Feb 15, 2015 11:36:27 GMT -5
Francis beat people's again. And he beat Stewart from hendi. I think it's time to give this kid a little more credit.
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Post by wrestlingfan138 on Feb 15, 2015 12:13:22 GMT -5
If you can name the wrestlers that were developed by Hendricken Id like to know. Rivet and DiSano are freshman, the celico brothers came up through westerly middle school and other hard working coaches. Your ignoring facts. Check all other sports, football has 5 state tiltes in a row, baseball is always in the finals. Facts are facts.
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Post by father on Feb 15, 2015 12:23:56 GMT -5
"BH is a powerhouse only because Coach Hennessey has worked his you know what off to create a great program."litewtfan
Almost every kid on their line up was a middle school state champ. If you put them in a room together, obviously they will get better. That is why I think Hendricken is such a good program. Who cares if their taking the best kids, its only making those kids better. Also what other program has the money to bring there kids to great tournaments in NY and NJ. What other teams need to do is try and copy that philosophy, of finding the hardest competition out there. Face it, RI is one of the worst states for wrestling, neighboring some of the best. We need to get or wrestlers to out of state tournaments. What is the point of in state tournaments your going to meet them in dual meets any way. Hendricken way have a All Star team, but is that such a bad thing?
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Post by nwwrestling on Feb 15, 2015 12:25:18 GMT -5
It is terrible that our Top Athletes go to private school and get a better education and possibly move on to play at college and possibly get a scholarship and have more opportunities in life. It would be way better if we spread all our good athletes out to mediocre public school teams where they may never develop. This way we will never be in the spotlight as a state for any sport and we can keep all the college recruiters out of the Ocean State. Good plan!
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Post by matrat on Feb 15, 2015 12:32:55 GMT -5
So you believe Hendricken,Lasalle and MB should be taken out of the mix, I think that would diminish the competition in RI which is NOT a good thing The more competition allows for a better challenge for the athlete. I for one, praise these wrestlers, who I know work extremely hard and provide other hardworking wrestlers a challenge! I know that my son looks for a challenge when wrestling and accepts any challenge put forth to him wether it be an athlete from a public school, private school, town or elite clubs. I say bring on ALL competition!
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Post by shoot on Feb 15, 2015 12:51:50 GMT -5
Nobody is saying they aren't working hard, or classy. They are always classy and Kevin is doing a great job. Personally Ive never had a problem with the private schools being in the interscholastic league. TO pretend that BH doesn't get seasoned athletes in all sports is naive though.
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Post by shoot on Feb 15, 2015 12:55:31 GMT -5
Francis should be ranked 1 or 2 at 160....has he lost this year?
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